Chapter 705: Do You Want to Build a Lithography Machine?

Holding Center International, it's a joke of course.

Zhang Rujing didn't want to make online games, and Chen Yu didn't want to control Center International.

He has no experience in chip foundry.

At this time, he still has to rely on Zhang Rujing and TSMC's hard bar.

However, Chen Yu has no idea about Center International, but he is very interested in the upstream industry of chip manufacturing.

As we all know, chip manufacturing begins with chip architecture design.

This piece is relatively simple, you just need to design a usable chip architecture.

This is soft technology, you can throw money at it.

Of course, it is simple to say that there is an arm architecture in front of you. You have to design and take their authorization directly, and then develop on this basis. But it's a little harder to come up with your own architecture and make it available to everyone in the world. But this piece of Universal Technology has already been deployed, and Chen Yu is not particularly worried.

The real worry is chip manufacturing.

Strictly speaking, Center International and TSMC are not the core manufacturing departments.

They are actually not much different from ordinary electronics foundries.

It's just that they manufacture more high-end products, chips.

But in the process of chip foundry, a series of equipment needs to be purchased.

Some other devices are fine.

Like single crystal furnaces, oxidation furnaces, polishing machines, etching machines, ion implanters... These can be found in China.

The performance can't be said to be the top in the world, but at least it can keep up with the team.

But in this, the most complex lithography machine can only be imported.

Of course, it does not mean that there are no lithography machines in China. Domestic electronic technology groups and Shanghai Machinery Factory can still produce lithography machines. However, this lithography machine has just started, and the chips produced can be used on DVDs at most.

And high-end electronic chips like mobile phones,

Only foreign lithography machines can be used.

In this, the most cutting-edge and top-notch lithography machine of the Dutch asml company is for them.

If it was a previous life, it would be very difficult for Chen Yu to break this situation.

Even if it is to be broken, it will not know how many years later.

But at present, although the lithography machine of the Dutch asml company is very good, the lithography machine technology of several other countries is not bad.

For example, Nikon's lithography machine in Japan, Canon's lithography machine, Panlin Semiconductor in the United States, and suss in Germany.

The lithography machines produced by these companies are one of the mainstream lithography machines in the world.

As for why the lithography machine of asml company does not dominate the world, it is completely because the current mobile phone has not developed to a certain height.

In the era when smartphones have not yet appeared, the market generally does not have a great demand for mobile phone chips.

This demand is not only a quantitative demand, but also a qualitative demand.

Just like Huanyu Technology is now doing a good job of asking for chips.

To be honest, the performance parameters of this Tianwen chip are very general, and the only advantage is that it integrates a multimedia system.

However, in the era of functional machines, people do not have such high requirements for the performance of chips.

Is it useless to have such a high demand?

The operating system of the feature phone is so simple, just make phone calls, take pictures, and at most play a small game.

An undergraduate student can do such an operating system.

With such a low-level operating system, he doesn't need a high-level chip at all.

And Tianwen chips are extremely popular in such a market.

At the same time, as long as the Tianwen chip is installed, it can beat other mobile phones.

In the same way, Center International does not need to import such a powerful lithography machine, and he can make such an ordinary Tianwen chip.

But if smart phones appear, smart phones will have higher and higher performance requirements for chips. Chip makers, then, can only use more sophisticated chips.

Well, at this time, the time when Europe and the United States will pinch your neck will come.

Chen Yu thought carefully.

At this time, the strength of the major lithography machine companies is similar at present. At most, the asml company is more powerful, but the power is not so good. At the same time, none of these companies have really entered the field of EUV lithography. The lithography machine developed with this technology is the most cutting-edge euv lithography machine in the previous life.

If Chen Yu entered at this time, there is really a little hope.

...

"President, I have something to discuss with you."

"Okay, I'll go to your office."

After receiving a call from Chen Yu, Li Biqing rushed to Chen Yu's office immediately.

Li Biqing knew that in general, Chen Yu would not look for him.

Looking for him, there must be something important.

"Chen Yu, what's the matter?"

As soon as he entered the door, Li Biqing asked.

"President, why are you so serious, come on, take a drink first."

"You kid, you asked me to come over for tea, right?"

"Of course there are things, but don't take it so seriously."

At this time, Dean Li Biqing has no specific responsibility for Huanyu Technology.

He Tingbo is in charge of the chip. More often, Li Biqing acts as a senior technical consultant for Universal Technology.

For example, the layout of the chip, and handling a small number of public relations matters.

"Come on, if you don't tell me, I'm not interested in drinking tea."

"President, you really..."

Chen Yu had nothing to do with Li Biqing.

"Actually nothing, Dean, do you have any research on lithography machines?"

"There's a fart study."

Li Biqing shook his head directly: "I am a retired dean of the Department of Computer Science of Shencheng University. Do you think I have research on all technologies?"

"Uh, Dean, I'm just asking what you think about the lithography machine."

"It's about the same as for the lithography machine."

Li Biqing said, "Why, Chen Yu, do you want to make a lithography machine?"

"I made a phone call with Zhang Rujing earlier, and he said that it cost hundreds of millions to buy a lithography machine. I'm not worried about money. If we can also come up with a lithography machine, do you think these hundreds of millions of dollars? Save it?"

"I'll go, you kid has a big appetite, you actually want to make a lithography machine."

Li Biqing was extremely surprised.

It's just that Chen Yu wants to work on chips and operating systems.

It seems to be understandable to engage in upstream industry lithography machines related to chips.

"Let's forget it. The lithography machine technology is too different from that of foreign countries. We just want to do it, and there is no drama."

Although there is not much technical research on lithography machines, Li Biqing still knows about lithography machines.

"President, it's because the distance between us and abroad is too big, so I want to do it. If the difference is not big, I don't want to do it yet."

Chen Yu's thinking has always been different from others.

Li Biqing originally wanted to persuade Chen Yu, but suddenly felt that Chen Yu's words were really reasonable.

"It makes sense, but this one is not so easy to enter. I will go back and contact several domestic companies that manufacture lithography machines."

"No, I'm not interested in them."

It's not that Chen Yu is really not interested in those companies, but that Chen Yu knows.

Even in 2020 in the previous life, these companies have not produced a decent lithography machine.

"What do you mean?"

Li Biqing asked in confusion.

"I mean, look at these foreign lithography machine companies, do they need investment or not."

"Investment...Chen Yu, you are here again, where did you get so much money. These lithography machine companies have to invest tens of billions of dollars at every turn, and you still owe so much foreign debt, from banks and from Central International. , In addition, the chip is still being developed and researched, so don’t make the stall too big, if the funds can’t be transferred in a week, the problem will be big.”

In fact, Li Biqing is also a little worried about the current Huanding Technology.

The internet used to be fine.

Going from the internet to the phone is no problem.

But from mobile phone to chip, from mobile phone to operating system, to computer, to chip foundry... Although it can't be said that there is a problem. But at the very least, these all require huge capital. Moreover, each of these fields requires huge investment, but it is difficult to get any return in the early stage.

Like Center International's foundry business, despite the fact that Center International's current business is so good, it has never been profitable.

Not only do they not make money, but they also lose money.

An expansion of production capacity will cost 3 billion yuan.

In the future, technology upgrades will have to be carried out, which is not known how much investment will be made.

When you really make money, you don't know it's the year of the monkey and the month of the horse.

Chen Yu is naturally clear about this.

Seeing Li Biqing's concern, Chen Yu said, "President, you don't have to worry about the fund. Since I want to enter these fields, I naturally have a way to raise money. Otherwise, I also know that I am taking too big a step. , it's easy to pull eggs."

"Fuck the eggs... you brat, swearing in front of my old man."

Li Biqing said with a smile.

"Uh, Dean, that's what it means anyway."

"Since you've thought about it, I can help you understand it first. However, don't have too many ideas. One of the companies that can produce lithography machines abroad is in Japan, the other in Germany, and the other in the Netherlands... Even if If you have money, they may not accept your investment.”

"This is not necessarily, let's see how the market is going."

"Row."

Negotiate with Li Biqing.

Chen Yu went to the game department of Huanyu Technology again.

At present, the financial pressure of Huanyu Technology is a bit high, and Chen Yu attaches great importance to the game.

Although it is already very profitable to fight now, Chen Yu feels that he can make more money.

And this way to make money is the most classic strategy in the game: the countryside surrounds the city.