Chapter 1149: Disputes Between Ministries

The topic of six thousand major ministries. The fact is that Bu has been mentioning it for a long time, but it's just that eight families are concerned about it at this time.

The so-called large ministry system is a large department system. According to the formulation of industry experts, in order to promote the comprehensive management and coordination of government affairs, government departments are merged according to the comprehensive management functions of the government to form a government organizational system at the level of department?

The characteristic is to expand the business scope managed by the department and put various related matters under the jurisdiction of the department, thereby minimizing the overlapping of government functions, multiple departments, and multiple management, thereby improving administrative efficiency and reducing administrative costs. .

"The Sudan Red incident that occurred this time has once again turned people's attention to the system of ministries and commissions. Fan Heng said to his son Fan Wubing, "Overlapping functions will only reduce administrative efficiency. As you said, if there are too many lice, they will not bite. Therefore, the top management is also thinking about streamlining the organization, but it will probably not be finalized until the change of government next year. But obviously, this is another power game.

Fan Wubing nodded and said, "This is easy to understand. In fact, every reform is a redistribution of interests."

Because there are not many. There will be a change of government in March, so a topic related to the change of personnel has become hot recently, which is the issue of the adjustment of ministries and commissions, saying that it is necessary to build larger ministries and commissions.

The current State Council was called the Government Affairs Council when the People's Republic of China was founded. It was only renamed the State Council in 1954. The organizational structure is modeled after the Soviet Union and corresponds to Big Brother. The current State Council says there are twenty-eight ministries and commissions. In fact, there are seventy-eight institutions. Of course, it is not the largest in history, but it is certainly enough.

From 1961 to 1964, the State Council streamlined its organization and eliminated 810,000 people, which shows the huge number of people at that time. By 1981. The number of State Council agencies reached 100, so in 1982 it began to streamline again.

Anyway, the institutions of the State Council are constantly adding and subtracting, expanding and then streamlining, streamlining and then expanding.

However, despite all the changes, the old foundation of the Soviet model has not changed. Now it’s a market economy. The economic situation and social conditions and sentiments have undergone great changes, so we can still use these old foundations to manage things. Not to mention spending money. I'm just afraid that if I don't speak correctly, things won't go well.

The major ministries and commissions are the constituent agencies of the State Council. From a foreign perspective, ministers are all considered members of the cabinet, not to mention their subordinate agencies. As for the establishment of ministries and commissions, there should be their own rules. The principles of administration are too simple to explain. It’s complicated. To put it simply, there should be two ministries and commissions. The principles are: first, the scales should be roughly the same, that is, the areas in charge should be similar; second, one thing should be managed by one person. Department management should not be broken into too many departments. The principle is similar to managing a company.

"For example, the Ministry of Finance manages government expenditures, but does not care about state-owned assets. What to do with state-owned assets? Now a special agency called the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission has been set up to manage it.

But this organization only cares about assets, not businesses. Isn’t it strange that the company was newly established and was managed by a new committee? One thing was cut into several parts, and different departments were responsible for them. Fan Yu explained to his son with an example, "Also. In China, the Ministry of Railways is responsible for railways, and the Ministry of Transportation is responsible for highways and water transportation. But for aviation, Instead, it is the Civil Aviation Administration of China at the vice-ministerial level, which is asymmetrical. Once again, one thing is divided into several parts. Is it possible to set up a department to manage water, air and sea transportation, so that it can coordinate and manage the national transportation? That’s what strategic management looks like?”

There are many examples like this. For example, the Ministry of Construction is responsible for building houses, but not the land. The Ministry of Land and Resources is responsible for the land. It would be strange if these two don't fight. One wants to use land, the other wants to protect agricultural land. No matter how coordinated they are, they can't get along.

Dan said that among the departments in charge of people, the Ministry of Personnel is in charge of cadres, the Ministry of Labor and Social Security is in charge of labor, the Family Planning Commission is in charge of childbirth, and the Ministry of Civil Affairs is in charge of charity and welfare. This setup is very planned economy and can be merged together. Take one. More formally known as the Ministry of Internal Affairs, or the Ministry of Population Development, it is responsible for China's population strategy and policy issues.

There are also departments in charge of cadres. There is a human resources department in the ministries and commissions to manage transfers. There is also a supervision department to supervise. There is a bureau to prevent corruption in the directly affiliated agencies. There is an anti-corruption bureau in the Supreme Procuratorate to arrest people. Is this set up too much? Repeated it?

The largest department of the State Council is not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which ranks first, but the Reform Commission.

All of this is the old foundation of the original State Planning Commission. It is the base camp of a typical planned economy. It first merged many of the original industry management departments, such as the Ministry of Metallurgy, the Department of Imitation Weaving, the Ministry of Coal, and the Ministry of Light Industry. Later, it merged with the National Restructuring Commission, making it the largest department in history. It can be considered a small State Department.

The current reform committee oversees three things: macroeconomics, industry policies, and state-owned enterprises. Of course, it also takes care of economic reform, but it takes care of too many things and is too busy with reform.

The Reform Commission is a level-level ministry. It does not care about the telecommunications industry. It is managed by the Ministry of Information Industry, which also manages the Internet. Nowadays, expectations for the development of the Internet are very high, so some people have suggested that the Reform Commission and the Ministry of Information Industry be put together to form the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology. However, this is like an elephant and an ant. The difference is too big. No wonder some people are interested in it. This is sarcastic. In addition, there is a large area under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Agriculture. According to the regulations of the State Council, the Ministry of Agriculture is in charge of agriculture and rural economic development, that is, "agriculture, forestry, animal husbandry, sideline production, and fishery. In addition to "forest", agriculture Everything is in charge. This, "Lin." Who controls it? It is managed by a deputy ministerial level unit: the Forestry Bureau.

The Forestry Bureau used to be a single entity, responsible for both planting and cutting down trees, but the job of cutting down trees was better than planting tree trunks. Later, the policy of closing mountains for afforestation was implemented, and the Forestry Department was only left with the task of planting trees, so it was renamed the Forestry Bureau.

In fact, now that people in Shandu are responsible for planting trees, there is no need to set up a separate forestry bureau, which is directly managed by the Ministry of Agriculture and can be collectively called the Ministry of Rural Affairs. China calls rural issues "agriculture, rural areas and farmers." This makes sense. "Agriculture, rural areas and farmers" refers to agriculture, farmers, and rural areas. These three aspects should be integrated into the entire department and managed in a unified manner to manage them well.

Of course, there are also some departments that now seem quite weird, such as the Bureau of Foreign Experts Affairs.

"In the past, foreign experts were very important. They were at the diplomatic level. Now these foreigners are nothing more than foreign workers. To put it simply, they are foreign migrant workers. They just work for the boss. Why do we need to set up a special agency for them?" Fan When Wu Bian heard that there was such a maverick department, he couldn't help being shocked and expressed great dissatisfaction, "Whether it is a large ministry or a small ministry, the institutional setting of the State Council must adapt to the current national conditions, and at the same time it must have certain We should be forward-looking and should not change things based on people, nor should we neglect things based on people.

"The main thing is to say, if you have more positions, you can arrange your own people. Otherwise, once you are the emperor and the courtiers, who of you wants to retreat? Once you retreat behind the scenes, your words will not be of much use, and your own relationships will not be there either. The method has been taken care of. This selfishness is the key reason for the bloated organization and overstaffing. Fan Heng pointed out pointedly, "The new leadership has held several meetings to discuss this matter, and everyone has the same opinion, that is Various ministries and commissions need to undergo a relatively large merger to save resources and improve efficiency.

"It's time for A." Fan Wubing nodded in agreement, still looking forward to the new leadership.

In fact, this is indeed the case. The dislocation and overlapping of administrative functions not only result in a lot of wrangling between departments, low administrative efficiency, and excessive economic resources consumed by the administrative agency itself; more importantly, it is unable to perform macroeconomic management, market Supervision, social management and other functions are unable to provide qualified public services and social security to the people?

Therefore, it is necessary to effectively integrate existing government agencies to change the phenomenon of numerous government agencies and overlapping functions. By reducing the number of agencies and reducing the coordination difficulties of various departments, the government operations can be more efficient and more in line with the macro management and public services of the market economy. role positioning. Rather than simply promoting the "separation of government from enterprises, separation of government capital, separation of political affairs, and separation of government and intermediary organizations" as in the past, although these are the most basic tasks in the reform of government institutions.

In other words, the implementation of the large-ministerial system also means that government functions must take the provision of public goods and public services as their own responsibility, so that government power can be regulated and returned to public services.

If the large-scale reform fails to achieve the effect of transforming government functions, then it will fall into the vicious circle of "streamlining, expansion, streamlining, and expansion again" like previous government agency reforms.

This possibility exists, because one of the direct purposes of the large-ministry system is to break up the existing departmental interests. However, as people are worried, if several departments are merged into one level department, it will have great power and it will be difficult to supervise it. It is even more difficult. Therefore, if an effective power restraint mechanism is not established, under the large-ministry system, the original "department" will be downgraded to "the king of hell" and become a little devil. However, the power in the hands has not changed, and the former "department" will still be exercised. Then, the reform of the departmental system may accumulate the previously dispersed departmental interests into centralized departmental interests.

The only way to solve this problem is to truly transform government functions.

It is for this reason that senior officials are very cautious about this matter. They believe that the large-scale ministry system is an inevitable choice for the government to ensure that the service function is prominent and the administrative color is diluted during the great social transformation. situation, when the time comes a ministry with great power. The actual power of his leadership is even difficult for the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister to check and balance.

"I hope the reform can be successful this time. Fan Wubing, who I am quite optimistic about, patted the shoulder of my father Fan Heng who was sitting on the sofa and said with a cheerful smile.

"You kid, if you dare, go pat those two on the shoulders and say these words again. Fan Heng felt angry and funny, and couldn't help but sarcastically said to his son;

"Hehe, I don't have the courage. We are not familiar with each other!" Fan Wubing shook his head and smiled. "