The Greatest Showman

1467 Philosophical Height

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"Othello" is about the greatness of mankind, and "Interstellar" is about the insignificance of mankind?

What kind of weird comment is this?

But Christopher was not angry, but full of confusion, because of Renly's way of expression - human beings are humble in front of nature, and human beings against nature are great, this is "Othello"; human beings stand in time The long river is small, and the human beings who try to fight against time are even more powerless. This is "interstellar travel".

In this way, does it mean that the motif of "Interstellar" is even more grand and profound than "Othello"?

do you mean this?

Christopher was thinking carefully, but Renly suddenly stopped. He knew that Renly's words must not be finished, and his eyes couldn't help but cast his eyes. After all, he couldn't hold back his curiosity and anticipation. "And then what?" he said hurriedly.

In terms of composure and wit, in dealing with people and doing things, Christopher is far from being a match for Renly.

Renly was not complacent either. After breaking Christopher's social mask a little, he immediately returned to the professional field, kept calm and said again, "But it is precisely because of the vastness and magnificence of time, which also reflects the human nature. Warmth and eternity. Even if death separates people from each other, even if time and space become an insurmountable gap, the bondage of human emotions will still not be cut off and will not disappear.”

In the second half of the "Interstellar" story, Cooper is trapped in a hypercube of five-dimensional space-time.

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, it is impossible to go back to the past, even if you enter high-dimensional space-time and spy on the past pictures, you still can't; in the movie, it is recalculated, and you can travel through time through gravitational waves and produce subtle changes in the past. Impact.

Cooper, who is deeply immersed in the five-dimensional space and time, can see all the time, from the past to the future. It is simply understood that time is a solid linear object, and Cooper can see every time from the beginning to the end. an instant, and then with the help of gravitational waves, to have an effect on what happened at a certain instant in the past.

Cooper, who entered the hypercube, realized that he seemed to be caught in an eternal time loop, and he probably would never go back, which made him start to panic and panic, he was afraid, afraid that he would return forever. I don't go, I am afraid that I will never be able to fulfill my promise to my daughter.

So, when he saw the past through five-dimensional time and space, his childhood daughter Murphy.

At that time, Cooper was still on Earth, and Murphy and Tom were still by his side. Cooper tried to shake the bookshelf through gravitational waves to attract Murphy's attention, and reminded Murphy through the code of the book, hoping that Murphy could leave himself on the earth at that time instead of participating in this expedition that could not go back. on the go.

However, he failed.

To understand from the first dimension, Cooper's single-minded belief in returning home overcomes all difficulties. Like "Othello", he wrote a human epic; moreover, the story environment extends from the sea to space, and the whole magnificent and vast The atmosphere became more and more majestic.

From the second dimension, even if Cooper cannot go home, Murphy still firmly believes in his father. The bond between them crosses the barriers of time and space, which cannot be erased or cut off. , this is the greatest and most steadfast core mystery in the long history of human existence.

In Renly's view, even if "Interstellar" is interpreted from the first dimension, it is great enough; but if it is only limited to the first dimension, it will inevitably deviate from the original intention of the Nolan brothers to write the script:

Emotion and time, which is more important?

The answer to the first dimension is the former, which is also a perceptual interpretation of human beings from the emotional level, because emotions are rich and complex, and the fetters and connections of joy, anger, sorrow and joy have been in the long history of human beings, and countless classic masterpieces have been deduced, and become the foundation of human society.

The answer to the second dimension is the latter, which is a rational interpretation of human nature after stripping away sensibility. After all, human beings cannot conquer time, and the confinement of time and space cannot be broken; but the greatest emotional entanglement of human beings can break through time itself, and the more it ages, the more fragrant it is.

In a sense, the interpretation of the second dimension is based on the first dimension, giving more depth from a philosophical perspective, adding a link of "Looking at a mountain is not a mountain", and finally returning to "Looking at a mountain or a mountain" The starting point, which also makes the film have more interpretation possibilities.

Of course, from a director's perspective, there will be no fundamental change in the way it is filmed; but from a writer's and actor's perspective, there are still subtle differences in what they need to add and understand.

In Renly's view, the Nolan Brothers created the "Interstellar" script, the core of which is indeed grand, and the finished film has indeed raised human nature to the height of time, but the lack of philosophical thinking makes the huge idea of ​​the film appear Somewhat simple - the presentation is so simple that it's a bit of a magician.

Not bad, but not enough.

The great and detached Swedish director Ingmar Bergman, Italian director Federico Fellini, Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky, etc., why can they be called masters ?

The fundamental reason is not that they can complete philosophical speculation, but that they can present this philosophical speculation through lenses and pictures.

The presentation of dreams, the construction of hallucinations, the capture of real scenes, these scenes without lines are precisely the essence, including those with metaphors.

Objects or decorations, actions or plots with spiritual refraction, etc., present the deep meaning of the mind and soul in this way—

Or religion, or family, or trauma, or poverty, or disaster, these factors form the existing personality and derive human behavior.

If anyone is curious, what is the difference between a screenwriter and a director, then the pictures of these directors are the best answer. The screenwriter is in charge of telling the story, and the director is in charge of building the world. Someone once said that Ingmar Bergman's lens is "divine", which is the shock brought by the film, even the actors and screenwriters can't reach a height.

In Christopher Nolan's finished film, his footage only shows the profound meaning of the first dimension, which prevents the film's discussion of time and emotion from being able to expand further.

Of course, this is not criticism.

For any director, it is very rare to present the ideological core of the first dimension; moreover, it is also closer to the appreciation level of the general public - after all, not everyone is keen to explore the spiritual world and the depth of the soul Yes, Christopher is widely praised as the best director for "finding a balance between business and art", after Steven Spielberg and James Cameron, he is the last two decades. The third director to win such a review.

This is not even a discussion and analysis of Renly as an actor.

But as a philosophy lover's interpretation. In other words, it is actually one of the influences brought about by aristocratic education. After they have received more edification in philosophy, literature, art, etc., it is inevitable that they want to be able to explore more deeply. If it's pure popcorn like "Transformers", then forget it, just relax and enjoy it; but "Interstellar" obviously has more possibilities, so I can't help but explore.

By the way, "2001 A Space Odyssey", the best candidate for space movie history, is actually "2001: a-space-odyssey" by Stanley Kubrick's original English name. After all, Stanley Kubrick was trying to film an Odyssey in outer space.

But the reason this movie is in the annals of history is what Renly just talked about—

Using lenses and pictures to present more vast content, and to think more at the philosophical level, the film not only discusses human nature, but also explores the ultimate speculative topic of divinity and human nature in the majestic starry sky.

This heritage and ability has gone beyond the basic story of "Odyssey" itself. This is also an important reason for Stanley Kubrick's admiration. Even Christopher Nolan bowed his head to the top director. In 2018, Christopher took over the "2001 Space Odyssey" with great reverence. Film restoration work, landed at the 2018 Cannes Film Festival.

Renly and Christopher debate.

As one of the screenwriters, Christopher refused to give an inch. He believed that the script world he and Jonathan had built was enough to support the entire core idea. If he went further, the balance between art and business would collapse; Li's speculation and deepening have all been reflected in the script, and there is no need to continue to discuss it. ——

The philosophical debate between emotion and time is too esoteric and complicated to explore in commercial films.

Renly did not show any weakness, he agreed that the film should give up some cumbersome thinking for the commercial part, but disagreed with Christopher's view that "this is enough", the film can completely pass a simple picture, one flashback and one imagine one. Contemplation, etc., etc., go deeper in the philosophical level, leaving the audience more space for reflection——

If it is an ordinary audience, then it is good to enjoy it as popcorn; but if you are willing to calm down and think about it, the audience can generate more speculative cores through the movie.

During the quarrel, Renly even gave out harsh words:

"The reason why 'The Dark Knight' can become a classic lies in the debate between justice and evil, even the Joker, no one can completely deny his actions, because he has his own reason for existence, this kind of speculation of good and evil , it is precisely the reason why the movie has risen to a whole new level. And 'Inception' and 'The Rise of the Dark Knight' are only an 80% work. The real reason is that the thinking in the movie is single-threaded. Paramecium way of thinking.”

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