Chapter 107 Persuasion
"Song Jun, we already understand the necessity of this plunder, but why does this cooperation partner have to be the Frost Rose Alliance?"
"For this issue, we first need to understand the current technological research and development progress of various guilds in the world." Song Zhenghe calmly changed the information in his hand, then opened the information and looked at it before continuing: "So far, there are The guild with the strongest technical power is undoubtedly the Frost Rose Alliance, I don’t think there is any need to explain this, right?”
The presidents of the Japanese guilds below nodded one after another. They have personally experienced the various crushing effects brought about by our guild's powerful technical advantages many times, so there is no need to explain this.
After seeing everyone nodding to express their understanding, Matsumasa congratulated and continued: "Well, since everyone knows that the Frost Rose Alliance is the strongest technical guild, then they will definitely think that since we are going to grab it, why not grab the technology? What about the most developed guilds? This is like robbing on the road. They are going to rob anyway. Why not find a rich man in a suit and tie to attack? Even if you take away all the begging bowls from the beggar's hands, How much money do you have? A watch owned by those rich people is worth tens of thousands of times the change in this bowl."
At this point, Song Zhenghe paused again, and the people below nodded to express that this was what they thought. However, Matsumasa quickly began to explain again.
"Although I originally planned the Frost Rose Alliance as the first target, as the leader of our alliance, if you are willing to follow me, I will be responsible for you. Before taking action, I must collect intelligence and base my understanding on it. Make a detailed action plan based on the information received. Only in this way can we ensure that everyone's interests will not be damaged. Although blindly leading everyone to charge may seem brave, it is actually taking advantage of everyone's interests to earn merit, which is disrespectful to everyone. Responsible. Therefore, after thinking of attacking the Frost Rose Alliance to snatch technical information, I conducted a series of intelligence collection and content analysis on this."
"Then what did you analyze that led you to exclude the Frost Rose Alliance as a target?" someone asked.
Song Zhenghe glanced at the other party and said: "This is what I want to tell you next. In fact, we all underestimated the Frost Rose Alliance before. For this operation, I spent money to bribe the Frost Rose Alliance. There are several mid-level players inside. Of course, I guarantee that the identities of these people will not be known to the Frost Rose Alliance. I will not report their identities here. After all, if I can bribe people from the Frost Rose Alliance, they can definitely bribe our people. So if some information is not necessary, it is better for us to try to control the scope of the people we know. Based on the information I got from them, I found that the internal structure of the Frost Rose Alliance is even more advanced than their external combat effectiveness. I think everyone You must have never imagined that the Frost Rose Alliance actually has an independent scientific research city, right?"
"Scientific research city? Are you talking about the kind of city that is entirely a research unit?" asked a Japanese guild president.
Song Zhenghe nodded and said: "Yes, not only is the entire city completely a research institution, but the city is actually divided into many districts. These districts are like different scientific research institutes. Each has a targeted research on a certain area. Research on related technologies. Moreover, they actually have a complete technical integration department. This department does not conduct technical research and development, but only specializes in the design and development of practical equipment. They will directly take the technical success of each department Come over and find a way to assemble the most powerful weapon. At the same time, once they encounter any technical difficulties in the process of developing new weapons, they will return these problems to the corresponding basic technology research department. This world tree-like system The biggest advantage is that the division of labor is clear, allowing the most professional people to do the most professional things.”
"Is the Frost Rose Alliance's technical research department so powerful?" Someone else interrupted and asked.
"This is not just a matter of strength, but that they have a complete system that can completely industrialize technology research and development, instead of being like a small handicraft workshop like our technical unit. Our research method is to first Have an idea, then move towards this idea, and study whatever problems you encounter. The result is that technicians often need to take into account many aspects of technology at the same time, and a person's energy is limited, and it is unlikely that he will be profound if he is erudite. If a person is particularly proficient in a certain aspect, he cannot pay attention to too many aspects, otherwise once the energy is dispersed, he will naturally not be able to go in depth. However, the research institution of the Frost Rose Alliance does not have such a problem. They assign all people to various tasks. There is a specialized research department, while knowledgeable researchers are in the integration department. They don't need to know too much in-depth things, as long as they can piece together existing technologies like building blocks to assemble practical equipment. This is actually the origin of the mobile angels that everyone hates so much."
"But the Frost Rose Alliance has strong technical strength, wouldn't it be better for us to grab it?" someone asked loudly.
Matsumasa explained: "I thought so too, but the problem is that after learning about it later, I discovered that this scientific research city is indeed very powerful and has a lot of technical information. However, this city is not a small city. The research institute is not a small or medium-sized city located in a certain location, but a very large fortress-like city. Moreover, this scientific research city named 'New World' is actually an independent floating island. This island is different from ordinary The island is different. It is an extremely rare ultra-high-altitude floating island. It is said that the height is at the top of the stratosphere. It even needs to activate the city shield to ensure normal air pressure and temperature inside. In other words, there is no way we can Enter the city from the outside.”
"But how did the Frost Rose Alliance get in and out on their own?"
"The Frost Rose Alliance and the New World Floating Island are connected using a special teleportation array. After learning about this entry method, I tried to ask the intelligence personnel to obtain the link frequency of the teleportation array, hoping that a forced connection could be made, but our intelligence The news sent back by the personnel is that this teleportation array has been specially designed. Special verification is required before activation. If the information does not match, the teleportation array will activate the space lock, which will not only prevent you from connecting, but even the fixed point of tearing the space forward. Teleportation will be blocked. In other words, unless you can use the special teleportation arrays within the Frost Rose Alliance that can connect to this floating island, you will never be able to get in."
"Then can't we sneak in quietly, then occupy this place and break into the floating island?" A Japanese guild president who is better at fighting said: "Since the entry method is restricted, there are only a few special teleportation arrays. If it can be connected, then we will simply have people bring bombs to destroy those teleportation arrays, and then leave one to occupy it. After that, we only need to leave a small number of people to guard this teleportation array, which is equivalent to sealing off the Frost Rose Alliance rescue research institution. possibility. And our people can enter research institutions and rob the technology we need at will."
Hearing what the other party said, Song Zhenghe couldn't help but sneered. Then he said: "Do you think that the Frost Rose Alliance is too simple? Let's not talk about whether our people can get close to those teleportation arrays. Even if it is true as you said, the other teleportation arrays were successfully destroyed, leaving only one And controlling it does not mean that we can succeed. I have said it before. The New World Floating Island is a fortress-like city. The city itself is a huge defense organization. The Frost Rose Alliance can say that on the island They spare no effort to set up a large number of defense facilities, and each experimental area is extremely exaggerated and specially equipped with an independent city-level protective shield. In other words, once an invasion occurs, this research institution will be completely locked up and we will be restricted. In the first area arrived. Of course, you may think that even so, you can grab the technology in this area, which is not a loss. However, what I want to tell you is that this is also impossible. New World There are a large number of security forces inside the floating island, and there are a large number of mobile angel troops beyond your imagination. In fact, there are many cutting-edge weapons in this area that you have never seen before, and that the Frost Rose Alliance has never used. The information I currently have contains a new type of cutting-edge combat equipment, whose combat capabilities are unimaginably strong."
"What's so exaggerated?"
"Mobile Angel - a sixth-generation aircraft. Oh, by the way, I forgot to explain it to you. The cleaning forces you are currently encountering in the peripheral area of Fulcrum City are equipped with fourth-generation aircraft, and according to the intelligence personnel we bribed, the fifth-generation aircraft A machine can kill one to six against a fourth-generation machine without taking any damage, while the combat effectiveness of a sixth-generation machine is completely unclear. It is conservatively estimated that there is no pressure to fight against four or five fifth-generation machines alone. Do you think that under such circumstances, we can hope to defeat these? A sixth-generation machine?"
"Just relying on a few super mobile Angels won't make us achieve nothing, right?" Someone asked unwillingly.
Matsumasa nodded and said: "Of course it's not enough to rely on a few mobile Angels alone, but the problem is that in addition to the unknown number of sixth-generation aircraft and fifth-generation aircraft, there is also a large group of mobile Angels stationed on this island that are used against the gods. This kind of mobile angels are used against the gods. You may not have seen many of the Mobile Angels, but I can tell you that I have seen them personally and fought against them. Only two to three of these can suppress a Protoss combatant, and more than five will be enough. Stable kills. What do you think of mobile angels with this kind of combat power? And these are just mobile angels. There are also regular combat troops on this floating island as well as a large number of defensive magic arrays, magic traps, and golem guards. Oh, by the way, there are also flying battleships and large groups of high-level Warcraft. At the same time, you also need to think about a question, that is, based on the previous plan, how many people do you think we can send to the floating island in the New World? Dozens or dozens? A few hundred? It must be less than a thousand people, right?"
The people below were completely silent now. Thinking of Song Zhenghe's words, everyone has completely understood that this kind of thing is totally out of the question. The teleportation array connection points of the floating island in the New World are all at Isinger, and everyone knows that it is impossible to attack Isinger. After all, the Japanese have tried it before, and there is really no hope at all, so everyone did not even think about it. This batch. The only way they can imagine to enter is to sneak in quietly. Although this method has a low success rate, it is not completely hopeless. After all, they have done this before, and they have indeed succeeded in sneaking in several times, but not long after entering. They were discovered, but they had gone in anyway, so this method of infiltration can be considered feasible. However, one thing they themselves knew very well was that the great changes had really penetrated, and the number of people could never be too large. We in the Frost Rose Alliance are not fools. Thousands of Japanese players suddenly showed up. Even an idiot knows something is wrong. Therefore, no matter how lucky they are, how stupid our guild's guards are, or how awesome their infiltration skills are, the number of people cannot exceed one thousand in any case, and even one hundred is not necessarily guaranteed. After all, a hundred people is quite a lot. It may not feel like they are scattered in the city, but if you want to enter those core areas, this number is still too many. Including those who are responsible for staying and guarding the teleportation array, there will be no more than a hundred people who can actually sneak in and steal the technology. These one hundred people have to deal with tens of thousands of guards. There are also several terrifying models of mobile angels. Isn't this a joke?
As if the blow was not enough, Matsumasa added: "Even if we don't consider the difficulties ahead, let's assume that our people really go in and defeat the guards there. Of course we all know that this is impossible. Yes. But, let’s assume we did it. But we still can’t get those technologies.”
"Why can't you get technology even if you defeat the guards?"
"It's very simple." Song Zhenghe said: "Because the Frost Rose Alliance is different from us, they have crystal technology. As you may know, this kind of thing can not only be a communication tool. In fact, sometimes it can also function as a computer. The same function. As far as the information we have, the Frost Rose Alliance actually has the ability to use crystals to store data. In other words, their technical information is installed in individual crystals, and these crystals require dedicated Equipment can only be read. But the problem is that we do not have these equipment. Therefore, even if we occupy this floating island, we can only collect some scattered research records of some researchers, and the technical information of the results are stored in a dedicated Crystal recorders, and these recorders are installed on a small aircraft that can be detached from the building. Once someone wants to snatch it, as long as one of them presses a special controller, the recorders full of data will Fly away with the aircraft, and our aircraft are equipped with self-destruction devices inside. Once the aircraft is damaged by external forces, the internal recording crystal will be automatically destroyed. The Frost Rose Alliance actually has other backup data, so even if All this data was destroyed, and all they lost was the day’s research progress.”
"Then what if we go directly to grab the backup data?" Someone who responded quickly said: "You just said that they will lose at most the research progress of the day, which means that they update the data every day, so we only need to track these people. Find the location of the backup data, and then we don’t have to go to the New World to snatch that data, we can just go directly to the location of the backup data.”
"I have also tried this." Matsumasa said, "There are actually more backup data than I thought. There are actually three copies."
"Wouldn't that be easier to do?" A Japanese guild president said: "We only need to catch one of the three targets. By the way, there is also a loophole in the data transfer process, and we can rob those transports Information person.”
"First, the person transporting the information should not even think about it, because the person doing this is not a player of the Frost Rose Alliance, but a senior god of the Chaos and Order God Clan, and the other party is not acting alone, and will be accompanied by guards. In addition, , even if we really have a way to intercept this god, it is useless, because this thing can also self-destruct, and there is also that problem - we know nothing about crystal technology, it is like a group of primitive people grabbing a USB flash drive, how do you see inside? data? We don’t have a reader, and we don’t know their compilation method, so it’s useless even if we get it. Finally, even if the above problems are solved, it’s still useless, because the person who transmits the data updates only that day every day. Research results, and if there are no results, they will not be updated. In other words, we can only grab one or two technologies at most. We don’t know what the specific technologies are yet. They may be very important or completely useless. And once we do it, Frost will The Rose Alliance will definitely step up its vigilance, and there will be no chance of attacking again."
"What about the place where the data is backed up?"
"I also asked the intelligence personnel to investigate this. It can be confirmed that there are three copies of the backup data. The first one is with the guild gods of the Frost Rose Alliance, that is, the Chaos and Order Gods. The data is integrated with the divine power core of their Chaos and Order Gods. , that is to say, this divine power core is one of the recorders, and snatching the divine power core of a god..."
Although Matsumasa did not continue talking, everyone knew that this kind of thing was impossible.
"Aren't there two more?"
"Yes, there are two more." Matsumasa said: "One of them is located in a city called the City of Commandments. Our intelligence personnel cannot enter this city at all. In fact, although this city is Frost Rose It is owned by the Alliance, but the gods from all over the world have sent troops to garrison it. In other words, sneaking into this city requires fighting all the gods in the world. Do you think we can enter such a place? "
"Why do those protoss want to help the Frost Rose Alliance defend the city?" someone asked unconvinced.
Matsumasa corrected him: "You are wrong. It is not the gods who help the Frost Rose Alliance defend the city, but the Frost Rose Alliance helping the gods defend something. Our intelligence personnel have not been able to figure out what it is specifically. Anyway, Those protoss jointly owned something similar, but no one was convinced who owned it, so in the end they simply asked an outsider, the Frost Rose Alliance, to manage it. Then each protoss sent out a few guards. This kind of thing is not in the hearts of any protoss. It's balanced. This city of commandments is said to be specially built to store this thing, but the Frost Rose Alliance obviously didn't build a city in vain. They have set up many warehouses and other places in this city, everything they think is important. Everything is just put there. In fact, we really can’t get the things there. No. It’s not just us. It should be said that no one can get it.”
Everyone can understand Matsumasa's explanation. After all, it is an area co-administered by the gods all over the world. This kind of place is definitely a super hornet's nest. Not to mention poking, even getting close is very dangerous.
"Isn't there the last one?" Some people still don't give up.
Song Zhenghe said quite helplessly: "Let alone the last one, we have no hope."
"What? Tell me and listen, maybe we can come up with a solution." The man asked unwillingly.
"The last record is backed up by Ziri, just inside his Gate of the Earth. The Gate of the Earth is actually connected to the private garden of a high-ranking protoss, and Ziri has completed a task before, and the other party said that the garden was empty. Part of the area was lent to Ziri to store things and his summoned creatures. However, although the place was lent to Ziri, it was still the garden of the upper god. It is said that it has the property of divine power confinement, and anyone without permission can , including powerful gods like Amaterasu, will be completely imprisoned once they enter this area. If any of you think that you are more powerful than Amaterasu, you can defeat Ziri and forcefully open that space, and you can still resist the people inside. As for the power of confinement, I don't mind helping you arrange it. By the way, the recorder in Ziri's hand is updated irregularly, so the opening time is not necessarily certain. If you can track Ziri, I have nothing to say. explain."
"That means the Frost Rose Alliance's information is absolutely unavailable?" asked a Japanese guild president.
Song Zhenghe nodded and said: "I have analyzed all possible methods and locations based on the information in hand, and the conclusion is - impeccable. There is no way to snatch the research results, and even if the robbery is successful, you can get it What we get are all single technologies, and there is still the old problem - how do we read those recording crystals we get?"
"But even if the Frost Rose Alliance is difficult to attack, there is no need to cooperate with them, right?" A very aggressive Japanese guild president said: "If we join forces with the Russians to attack Essinger, and then cooperate with infiltration operations, it will actually be Isn’t it possible that we can’t succeed?”
Song Zhenghe nodded and said: "If the Russians are acting together with us, and they are not willing to spare blood, it is indeed possible to attack Isinger to attract attention and take the opportunity to sneak in, but the problem remains. Over there on the floating island in the New World It is possible to close the transmission connection in one direction, and they have a space shield that can cover the entire floating island, which means that as long as they are discovered, they can prevent more people from landing on the floating island, and then the problem will arise again. Back to the starting point, the limited personnel can't defeat the army over there, and even if they grab the things, they can't read them. So after we think of other ways to land on this floating island on a large scale and find a way to read the crystals of the Frost Rose Alliance Before the recorder, there was no chance of success in any plan to seize the Frost Rose Alliance's scientific and technological achievements. Even if we could break in, the result would be the same. And other guilds in the world except the Frost Rose Alliance use their research results. It is recorded in paper materials, at most it is video information recorded with memory crystals. To put it bluntly, it is text data. We only need to find a few translators to read it. Even if the other party records it in passwords, we can also find someone who specializes in deciphering codes to help. , so it is possible to steal information from other guilds, but only the Frost Rose Alliance’s data room cannot be snatched out or read out.”
After Song Zhenghe said these words, everyone below fell silent. The presidents of the Japanese Guild all seemed a little discouraged, because emotionally, they wanted to rob our Frost Rose Alliance. Not those other guilds.
This sentiment is actually quite understandable. If you successfully rob someone, then make the move before the other person has the same level of money. Steal someone you don't know and someone you know as your enemy. Which one do you think makes you happier?
The Frost Rose Alliance is an eternal pain in the hearts of Japanese players, so for them, in addition to practical benefits, robbing our things can also bring psychological happiness. After all, this is considered revenge.
After calming down for a while. Finally someone recovered. He began to say: "Since the Frost Rose Alliance cannot be robbed, why should we choose Russia among other choices?"
"This question is actually very simple." Matsumasa said: "At present, apart from the Frost Rose Alliance, there are only three regions with higher technology. Europe, the United States and Russia.
The technology of European countries is not too advanced, and there is only one Iron Crusader which is not bad. But this guild is an ally of the Frost Rose Alliance, and they are a highly unified country. The whole of Germany is almost a guild of the Iron Crusaders, so it is difficult for our people to get in. After all, our Japanese appearance is too conspicuous in Europe. . Moreover, the main reason why I exclude Europe is because the opponent's technology is not strong, and there is not much point in trying to steal it. "
“What about the rest of America?”
"The technology of the United States can be said to be on the same level as Russia." Matsumasa said: "But there are also problems. The United States is not in a unified state at present, and the Holy Spear League of the Gun God does not have absolute leadership in the United States. There are several large guilds that compete with them. These guilds have their own technologies, and we can't loot them one by one. Although the American guild defense capabilities are not as perverted as the Frost Rose Alliance, But it’s not a self-selected supermarket after all! It’s still possible for us to grab the first one, but if people are too vigilant after that, we won’t be able to do it. After all, robbing technology is very troublesome. You can’t destroy the data, and you have to ensure that the data is complete. Therefore, the robbery process must be very sudden and one-time action. Once the action is started, regardless of success or failure, it will be very difficult to do it a second time.”
"Is all Russian technology centralized?" someone asked.
Matsumasa nodded and said: "There is a very famous player in Russia called the Frozen Banshee. I believe many of you have heard of this Russian beauty. Her combat effectiveness is acceptable in extremely cold areas. Although she is still slightly inferior to Zi Ri, she at least has more and more abilities. The guild she controls is called Banshee House, and the combatants of this guild are divided into two parts, and the core members are all They are female players, and only male players are members of the external committee. However, this guild is not actually a fighting guild. Their main feature is that their scientific research power is very strong. Although I don’t know how this structure was formed, but for now Judging from the intelligence, the guilds in Russia basically follow the Banshee House. To put it simply, the Frozen Banshee is the actual leader of Russia, and all the research forces in Russia are concentrated on her. In the Banshee House guild directly under his subordinates.
If the whole of Russia is understood as a group army, the Banshee House is equivalent to the group army headquarters and its directly affiliated troops, while other Russian guilds are the armies under the group army and some independent brigades. of troops.
This command form and structure determines that the center is very centralized, so it is possible for us to get as much information as possible in one raid, and what I can expect is that we can get at least half of the information. Of course, the front is the front that successfully breaks through. Moreover, because the Banshee House is actually a guild similar to the army headquarters, its defensive power is not actually very strong. The Russians don't seem to pay much attention to defense, they prefer to attack. You should all know this. After all, the Russians have invaded China before, and this is one of the manifestations of their offensive strategy. so. The success rate of raiding Russian guilds is much higher than that of guilds in other countries. "
"President Matsumasa, we probably understand what you mean, but we still have a question. If Russia is easier to attack and has value, then why must we cooperate with the Frost Rose Alliance? With the Americans or Isn’t it possible to cooperate with Koreans? Didn’t Nobunaga Ghost Hands cooperate well with Koreans before?”
"Regarding the issue you mentioned, what I want to say is that the only one left that can cooperate with us is the Frost Rose Alliance." Seeing someone about to interrupt, Song Zhenghe quickly said, "Don't talk, just listen to me. Finished. I also wanted to cooperate with other guilds before, but after analysis, it seems that the only suitable ally I can find is the Frost Rose Alliance. Regarding this reason... Let me tell you first Let’s talk about why we shouldn’t choose the forces you mentioned.
First of all, South Korea is not strong enough. They are not a powerful country. Moreover, it has split into several parts internally. So far, the Frost Rose Alliance still has an ally in South Korea. In other words, cooperation with Korean guilds can only mobilize part of their strength at most. It’s no longer strong when you come to Korea. Not using all his strength. That's even worse. other countries. European countries are too far away and will not interfere in such matters. They haven't produced any internal results yet, so they have no time to care about external matters. So they won't cooperate with us at all. Not to mention Africa or South America and Australia. I can't find a country that is strong enough, and I can't count on it at all. "
"What about America?"
"The problem in the United States remains the same. Everyone knows about the mission system that was promulgated before that can directly give buff rewards, and this system determines that all countries are busy deciding on their own overlord guild or ruling guild. This we We are doing it ourselves, and everyone should have a deep understanding of it. Therefore, Americans’ minds are not here at all. They need to be busy deciding who is the boss in the family. Before that, they have no time to care about outside things. Moreover, even Americans They really took action. After all, they are too far away from Russia. What we need is a large-scale invasion, so that we can contain the main force of Russia, and then we can take action. The Americans do not have the ability to send so many people to Russia went to war, so even if they wanted to participate, it would be of no use to us.
After eliminating the shortcomings of these guilds, everyone will find that apart from the hatred between us and the Frost Rose Alliance, the Frost Rose Alliance is actually the most suitable choice.
First, the Frost Rose Alliance is the ruling guild in China, and their own strength is huge. They can fully take advantage of their large numbers. With the help of a large number of human sea tactics and their not weak basic combat effectiveness, they can completely In a short period of time, players throughout Russia were drawn into the war, leaving them completely unable to spare manpower to defend their bases in the rear.
Second, the Frost Rose Alliance has a bad relationship with us Japanese players. This is a well-known thing in China. Therefore, after the Chinese go to war with Russia, we can completely run to support Russia under the banner of saying that the enemy of the enemy is a friend. In this way, we can send a large number of personnel to Russia reasonably and legally without arousing their alertness. After that, we can separate the elites from the large army, join the elite forces of the Frost Rose Alliance, and then go together to rob Russian headquarters.
Third, this is what I just said. The elite of the Frost Rose Alliance. These are the biggest advantages of the Frost Rose Alliance. Technological plunder is different from ordinary plunder. What is needed is not large numbers of people but elites. As everyone of the Frost Rose Alliance's elite assault force knows, there is no place that cannot be penetrated by the presence of the Purple Sun. Therefore, by cooperating with them, the penetration ability is absolutely guaranteed.
Finally, point four. The Frost Rose Alliance is currently the most technologically advanced guild in the world. Therefore, after obtaining the technology from the Russians, it will give more warning to any guild than the Frost Rose Alliance. In other words, if it is cooperating with the Americans, After success, the Americans will become the second Frost Rose Alliance, and the enemies we will face will become two. The Frost Rose Alliance has very advanced technology. Although it can improve their strength after acquiring the Russian technology, for them it can only make up for some omissions, but it will not increase much. On the contrary, after we obtain the technology, we can greatly increase our combat effectiveness. After calculating this, the gap between us and the Frost Rose Alliance has narrowed a lot. "
Song Zhenghe's last words were like the straw that broke the camel's back. The last thing that echoed in the heads of all the Japanese guild presidents was "The gap between us and the Frost Rose Alliance has narrowed a lot." Then, after a few seconds of silence, they suddenly made a decision to support Matsumasa's plan.
Just as the presidents of the Zhongri Guild were getting excited, a discordant voice suddenly broke in. "Matsumasa He-jun, you have said so much, will the Frost Rose Alliance agree to cooperate with us? Don't forget, not only do we hate them, they also don't like us, right?" (To be continued...)