Chapter 1143: The Industry Leader

After Li Dong and Ma Yun's words fell, the field applauded thunderously.

It's not that everyone is against Li Yanhong. On such occasions, as long as you have something to say and something to say, everyone will applaud you.

Before Li Yanhong gave a speech, there was no shortage of applause.

Now, Li Yanhong was refuted by two e-commerce tycoons, everyone listened reasonably, and there was still thunderous applause.

Li Yanhong on the field was still in deep thought, the host smiled and said, "President Li, do you have anything to refute about what the two of you just said?"

Li Yanhong regained consciousness, smiled and said: "There is no need to refute, individuals have their own opinions, what we need is this kind of state where a hundred flowers bloom.

The Internet industry has developed rapidly through this kind of collision, and has come to the present step by step. "

At this point, Li Yanhong paused and said: "Of course, I still have a few questions, and I want to ask Li Dong and Ma Yun.

Both of you are masters in the field of e-commerce. I think, from your answers, maybe I can see the future more thoroughly. "

Li Dong in the audience laughed and said: "Yan Hong can speak up if he has something to say, in fact, everyone is crossing the river by feeling the stones.

It's too early to say a master.

Of course, a certain self-proclaimed master of Dongxie is not within the scope of what I am talking about. "

"Hahaha……"

The audience was full of laughter, and someone who didn't know the situation asked in a low voice: "What's the situation? Who is Li Dong talking about?"

An insider immediately said, "It's about Ma Yun."

In 2008, Ma Yun's reputation was not too great, so he became popular when he went public in Xiangjiang last year.

However, this year, the stock price of Ali's B2B business has plummeted. Not long ago, it fell below the market price. For a while, Ma Yun's reputation in the IT industry was greatly reduced.

Except for some people who pay special attention to him, ordinary people, even those in the industry, don't know much about Ma Yun.

Ma Yun likes Jin Yong's novels very much, and has held several "West Lake Discussion of Swords" summits.

During the sword discussion, Ma Yun also referred to himself as Dongxie Huang Yaoshi. He has a special liking for Huang Yaoshi, and Dongxie is naturally a master figure.

Li Yanhong said something casually, and Li Dong also joked about Ma Yun along the way.

People who know the inside story can't help but laugh, these people hate me, I hate you, if you really want to say who is with whom, it is obviously not correct.

Strictly speaking, Li Dong and Li Yanhong have cooperated, and the two parties even share technology, so they can be regarded as a group.

But just now, Li Dong joined forces with Ma Yun to attack Li Yanhong together, obviously a temporary partnership.

Now, Li Dong pulled out Ma Yun to joke again, and those who understand naturally know that the temporary alliance just now has disbanded.

In the business world, whether it is the Internet industry or other industries.

It is difficult for you to clearly tell others who is an opponent and who is an ally.

It is possible that if two people wear a good pair of pants today, they will become the biggest competitors tomorrow.

Speaking of the Internet industry, today Ma Yun and the three are sitting together, but Ma Huateng is sitting with Zhou Hongyi from 36o, and the two chat happily.

The relationship between these two people is not bad now, and they are not rivals.

But when the 3Q battle breaks out in the future, the brains of the two are about to come out, who can predict this now.

In addition, Zhou Hongyi and Lei Jun were originally friends, and Lei Jun's wife and Zhou Hongyi were still classmates, so the relationship between the two is not good.

But in the future, Jinshan and 36o will fight, and no one will choose to give in because of their old friends.

In the same way, whether it is officialdom or shopping malls, except when you are weak, you will line up certain people and certain companies, and the team is fixed.

However, when they are strong, it would be a big mistake if you use your inherent team sequence to measure them.

The real giants have almost no fixed alliances.

When there is interest, everyone can come together. If there is no interest, or there is a conflict of interest, the two sides will become enemies in a blink of an eye. These are all normal things.

In the eyes of ordinary people, it is shameful to be in a hurry.

But for people at another level,

It would be really stupid to brand yourself as belonging to someone.

...

Li Dong's ridicule obviously couldn't shake Ma Yun.

Ma Yun smiled and said: "Entrepreneurs who don't want to be a master are not good entrepreneurs. Li Dong's words are hypocritical. Just now he said that Yan Hong didn't want to make money. It's hypocrisy. Now he has followed suit."

Li Dong said with a smile: "I call it modest, but you have a thick skin."

"There are so many people here on the field, and the eyes of the crowd are sharp. Do you need to vote with the thickest skin?" Ma Yun joked.

"..."

The two started teasing each other, and Li Yanhong on the stage couldn't help but said, "I'm talking about you two, can you give me time to ask a few questions?"

Li Dong coughed lightly and said: "I almost forgot to talk, Yan Hong is still waiting, everyone, please be quiet, and give Yan Hong a chance to find her place again."

Li Yanhong laughed, and didn't care about his teasing, and said, "Just now, Li Dong, you said that the current c2c e-commerce is no longer the mainstream.

Then can I understand that, you mean, c2c e-commerce has become history? "

Li Dong sternly shook his head and said: "The two should not be confused with each other, of course I don't mean that.

The rise of B2c and even o2o does not mean that c2c has become history.

Now major companies are conducting diversified exhibitions. In fact, the e-commerce field also needs diversified exhibitions.

Whether it is c2c, B2c, o2o or others, they are all compatible.

In the field of e-commerce, there is not a long history of development in China, so we don't want to fix it.

Constant running-in, constantly looking for the most suitable e-commerce model for domestic people, this is what we have to do.

Don't be limited, if you have to fix a certain field, if you say you want to do c2c, you can do c2c, if you say you want to do B2c, you can do B2c, there is no need for this.

Whether it is Taobao or Yuanfang, we are actually looking for a breakthrough point.

When a certain field reaches a bottleneck, we can adopt the '+' mode.

c2c+B2c+o2o, and even more things, such as logistics and finance, can be added.

There are no barriers between industries.

Maybe there was before, but since the Internet, this barrier has been broken.

If nothing else, let’s just talk about the financial field. In the past, when you bought things, you could only pay in cash, and it’s amazing that you can swipe your card.

But now?

How many online shoppers pay by cash on delivery?

Alipay has more than 100 million users, and Wanka has 80 million users. If you look at their consumption patterns, you will find that everything has changed.

This is a general trend, such is the social trend, and industry barriers have been broken. "

After Li Dong finished speaking, applause rang out again.

Ma Yun, who was sitting beside her, kept applauding too!

What Li Dong said was particularly to his liking, the key point is that Li Dong finally led to Internet finance.

Internet finance breaks the monopoly position of the traditional financial industry and breaks down their industry barriers. This is indeed the general trend.

Bringing this up at this time will also make everyone think deeply.

Next, if Wanka and Alipay want to promote the liberalization of the Internet financial system, it will be much simpler, at least not so abrupt and unacceptable.

In addition, the "+" mode that Li Dong mentioned made Ma Yun and Ma Huateng even more thoughtful.

Li Yanhong on the stage pondered for a moment and said: "I understand what you said.

The "+" model you mentioned is not only applicable to the Internet industry, but also includes traditional industries.

What you are doing now is to integrate your e-commerce + market + logistics into one, that is to say, this model, you didn’t rise up for a while, but you have been practicing it for a long time, right?

A single o2o model is no longer enough to represent Yuanfang's current ecosystem.

Li Dong, let me call the model of Yuanfang Internet + model for the time being. Do you think this new model can reconcile the opposition between the traditional economy and the virtual economy? "

Li Dong smiled and said: "You summed it up very brilliantly, since you said Internet+, then use this instead.

But you are a bit wrong. You said that the real economy and the virtual economy are opposites. In my opinion, it is a fallacy.

The two are not in opposition, but just two forms of one commercial activity, and they are actually integrated.

As for whether this model is good or not, everyone can see for themselves.

Anyone with a discerning eye knows the path Yuanfang is taking now and the results.

Ma Yun has always wanted to go this way. Taobao relied too much on c2c in the past, which led to him walking with a limp all the time.

Now he wants to cure another lame leg, and is working hard in this direction.

It turned out that you were fine, we were all thinking about curing the disease, you plunged in, and your legs didn't grow out, so you started thinking about who to beat, bragging is okay, but bragging is just slapping yourself in the face. "

Li Yanhong smiled bitterly: "I have benefited a lot from your point of view, but can you not add the last sentence next time.

Every time I feel that I have eaten a big meal and I am still thinking about it, you have to add some disgusting things in it, and the high-end meal becomes fast food in an instant. "

The others burst into laughter.

However, not everyone agrees with Li Dong's point of view. Before Li Dong put down the microphone, the new CEO of Tom eBay picked up the microphone and said: "Mr. , especially e-commerce sites, are they all walking with a limp?

And the only thing without lameness is the distance.

Yuanfang's model has not yet been verified. In my opinion, Yuanfang's success is more accidental than representative.

I think your remarks may also cause misunderstandings by others.

Not every enterprise has strong capital support.

And what you said about walking with all legs requires strong capital. If you really want to follow your way, I think most of the companies present will enter a dead end. "

Li Dong smiled and said: "What you said only represents your thoughts, and what I said only represent my thoughts.

Of course, you said that the success in the distance is accidental, and I admit it.

But you say it's not representative, but I don't agree.

I didn't say, let everyone follow the road far away, just talk about e-commerce, I make market + logistics + e-commerce + urban complex, this is indeed not something every enterprise can afford.

Breaking through industry barriers is what we must do.

You don't need to use + so much, but Internet + is indeed a big trend, you have to admit it.

In the past few years, the traditional economy and the Internet economy have become more and more conflicting, which is influenced by your ideas.

Is it true that the Internet is just the Internet, and the traditional economy is just the traditional economy?

Small and medium-sized enterprises do not need to consider these, but large enterprises must consider this!

As leaders in the Internet industry, we are all seeking a way to develop together. I think whether it is Yan Hong, Ma Yun, or most people, they are considering and implementing this point.

Tom eBay, the former industry leader, pioneer, and pioneer, it is because of your ideas that you stick to one road to the end, which leads to the current embarrassing situation.

I heard that when Wang Lei left eBay earlier this month, what he regretted most was buying eBay.

Why do you have such an idea?

In my opinion, the acquisition of eBay is not a mistake. eBay has its due value. The real mistake is that you have not adjusted your mentality and are not prepared to accept failure.

Being number one in c2c back then does not mean that it has to find a place in the c2c field.

Tom Group, as Mr. Li's industry, I think there is no shortage of funds for development.

However, you have spent a lot of money and gained very little. At this time, you should review instead of complaining, let alone be cautious and dare not take the next step.

Road, before you go, you say you will definitely enter a dead end.

With this concept in mind, I dare to assert that after three to five years, there may be no place for Tom eBay in the Huaxia e-commerce market. "

"Papa papa!"

A series of applause rang out again, this is Li Dong's frenzy several times.

Although Li Dong's words were a bit embarrassing, and even the people from Tom eBay couldn't hold their heads up.

But they have to admit that the loser is not qualified to refute.

eBay, which used to be the number one in the field, once made Ma Yun afraid, made Taobao feel like an enemy, and called it the enemy of life and death, has really come to an end.

Everyone is seeking change, and if you change, you will live and if you don't change, you will die.

Taobao is changing, Yuanfang is changing, Jingdong is changing...

All surviving companies are changing, but eBay is the only one that remains unchanged. It is still focused on finding a place in the c2c field.

Li Dong's refutation left the other party speechless.

Although the new head of eBay felt lost, angry, and unwilling, he finally said softly: "Thank you, I agree with Mr. Li Dong's words.

However, I still want to say that not every company can take this path. "

Li Dong smiled and nodded, "That's right, but if you want to become a big company, you have to leave.

If you are satisfied with the present, contented with a little wealth and peace, then what I'm talking about is nonsense.

But in fact, the purpose of this conference is to seek change, strength, and development. If you don't have this kind of thinking, why come to the Internet Conference? "

"Li Dong is right, this is also the purpose of our participation in the conference together."

Li Yanhong on the stage seemed to be forgotten, so he had to take the opportunity to interject, and then said: "Thank you Li Dong for explaining my doubts.

Thank you at the same time, Ma Yun and Li Dong have brought me a blow, and I want to give up Baidu's c2c road after the blow.

However, since it has been done, there is no reason to give up halfway.

Today, I learned my lesson.

C2C is just the starting point of our e-commerce road, but it will not be the end.

We have to go on the lame road, let the legs grow step by step, and when the legs are complete, then I will verify everything today.

To borrow what Li Dong said before, we are still young, the big deal is to start all over again! "

Li Yanhong bowed and stepped down from the stage, and the audience burst into applause.

Yes, Li Yanhong's speech was not considered a success. Li Dong and Ma Yun's joint blow was enough, especially Li Dong, who once stole everyone's limelight and became the man of the scene.

However, Li Yanhong is also commendable for not giving up and bravely accepting challenges.

People who can achieve great success in their careers generally have one thing in common, full of resilience!

Whether you succeed or fail, you have to dare to try, even if you fail, you will not be devastated by the blow.

A real genius will fail thousands of times, and will achieve the greatest success the last time.

Of course, those who can succeed are called great people, and those who have failed thousands of times but have not succeeded are complete losers in life.

Li Yanhong stepped down, and the opening ceremony of the conference officially came to an end.

...

Just when everyone was taking a break.

Li Dong was surrounded by everyone.

The "+" theory he put forward just now has appealed to many people.

Yuanfang is also a pioneer on this road. At present, Yuanfang is not the only enterprise that can truly link the traditional economy and the Internet economy, and only Yuanfang can achieve the greatest influence.

Of course, the current distance is not yet successful.

Their "+" model is still in the initial stage for the time being, and it is not something that can be accomplished overnight if they really want to achieve results.

In the crowd, the boss of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology smiled and said to Li Dong: "Li Dong, the Internet+ you just mentioned is quite interesting. If you don't mind, we can talk about it in detail later."

Li Dong nodded with a smile: "Of course, but in fact I'm just an explorer now.

It may be difficult for Minister Zhang to really get any useful information from me.

This cannot be done by me alone. It requires the efforts of the whole industry to break down the barriers of all walks of life.

Let’s just talk about Internet finance, up to now, it has not been recognized by the state, nor has it been officially approved by the government.

And Internet finance is an indispensable part of the entire Internet system, we are wandering in a gray area and dare not make breakthroughs with all our strength..."

As soon as these words came out, Ma Yun's eyes lit up, and he quickly answered: "Li Dong is right!

Minister, if we want the Internet industry to achieve greater progress and success, it will be difficult to rely on individuals or enterprises.

Our real guide, the forerunner, is the government!

The government has given us more space, so that we can exert ourselves and make greater breakthroughs in unknown fields..."

Li Dong and Ma Yun talked about this one after another, and then Ma Huateng and Li Yanhong joined in to help.

For a while, the minister of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology was overwhelmed, and it took a while before he laughed and said: "You are forcing the palace!"

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