Chapter 780: The Unexpected Effect of Strategic Deception

After setting the tone of agreeing to cooperate, the remaining things are naturally to determine some basic principles.

After all, this time it is the Aviation Power Group that is directly handling it.

It is easy to come up with an idea, but to implement the idea in detail, there is still quite complicated work in the middle.

Although the French may only want to save the General Group, there is still a possibility of reaching cooperation, and we must make the best preparations.

Moreover, this kind of tug-of-war situation can also be used as an opportunity to train the Aviation Power Group's own negotiation team.

Looking at the current situation, foreign exchanges and cooperation in the future may be inevitable. We can't always ask Chang Haonan to borrow people from the Science and Technology Commission.

"Since we are ready to cooperate, then next, we have to determine the conditions we put forward. Is it joint research and development, or just a supplier of solutions, paying money on one hand and delivering goods on the other? I want to hear your ideas."

Zhu Linyu has been in charge of the military-to-civilian conversion-related work of the previous Aviation Industry Corporation in the past few years, but he still has some understanding of those foreign cooperation projects, especially the aviation safety cooperation that has been promoted as a benchmark by the Corporation.

Now that it was his turn to take charge of the overall situation, he would definitely start by copying others.

Of course, his question was not so much to gather ideas as to seek Chang Haonan's opinion.

It was just not a good idea to ask too directly.

Of course, the other people also understood the hidden meaning, so none of them meant to speak, but almost at the same time, they looked at Chang Haonan.

The latter also knew that this was not the time to be humble, so after a little thought, he spoke:

"From the current situation, because the progress of the WS-10 is relatively smooth, the trust given to us by our superiors, and of course the funding, are relatively sufficient, so we don't have to rush to make quick money, but try to do it in the form of joint research and development."

One good thing about joint research and development is that every time an order for the M88 or Rafale fighter is reached in the future, the Aviation Power Group will be able to gain a profit from it.

Compared with a one-time deal, it is obviously more profitable to make a steady income.

"Comrade Haonan, I heard that you promoted cooperation with the Russians in the form of technology exchange in Shengjing before?"

As the chief accountant, Wen Kangjian was not from the aviation industry system, but he was already a member of the preparatory committee before the group was officially established, so he had some understanding of some of the situations at the head office.

"Yes, it was carried out within the framework of Project No. 11."

Chang Haonan nodded:

"In fact, although the entire Project No. 11 is generally about my country's introduction of Su-27's research and development and manufacturing technology, there are also parts of technical exchanges between the two sides. For example, the fuselage structure upgrade of the J-11B prototype being manufactured was completed jointly by the 601 Institute and the Sukhoi Group."

"This is also another advantage of cooperative research and development."

Although Chang Haonan is the youngest, he is probably more experienced in projects than the rest of the people present combined.

Project No. 11 is not the business of the Aviation Power Group, and the former is not directly involved in theory, but it undoubtedly played an important role in it.

Therefore, the other people also pricked up their ears.

"Cooperative research and development means that we have a say in products, of course, for weapons and equipment, mainly the export of products."

Chang Haonan continued:

"Just like the Project 11 mentioned by Comrade Kang Jian just now, models using the second-stage upgraded fuselage, such as Su-27SMK and Su-27UBMK, must obtain the consent of both parties before they can be exported."

"After the improved model of Gongqingcheng completed its first flight in the first half of the year, several countries immediately proposed the idea of ​​purchasing the improved model, but in the end, because of the triggering of the restrictive clauses we had signed with Russia, only Algeria and Ethiopia signed orders to purchase the SMK model, while Annan could only purchase models using the old fuselage..."

Increasing the right to speak in the international arms sales market is still very attractive to China.

Then, Wen Kangjian asked very cautiously.

"Then... can we also learn from the ideas of Project 11 and exchange some technologies that we or other brother units urgently need?"

"This..."

Chang Haonan did not respond immediately, but lowered his head and thought for a while:

"The French do have a lot of technologies we need, but Dassault and Snecma may not, especially since we have already determined the development direction in both aircraft and engines, and it is impossible to continue to follow the French path... Moreover, cooperation in technology exchange also involves deep trust issues."

"Trust... They have already asked us to help with the engine, so what's the point of talking about trust..."

"It's not mutual trust between them and us."

Chang Haonan waved his hand and explained:

"It's their internal mutual trust. The entire Rafale project involves not only Dassault and Snecma, but also Thales, Sagem, and Explosives Group. Relatively speaking, we are more interested in Thales' optoelectronic equipment and Explosives Group's smokeless propellant technology."

"Before, we were able to cooperate with the Russians in the form of technology exchange because we have the National Defense Science and Technology Commission, and they also have a defense weapons export company that can integrate most of the military business. But this time we are doing business with the French. How can Thales use its own technology to help Snecma solve the problem?"

Although the companies mentioned above are all French state-owned enterprises, French state-owned enterprises and Chinese state-owned enterprises cannot be directly benchmarked.

On the Chinese side, the Electronic Technology Group used its own technology to exchange for the technology needed by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China, and then it could use the internal settlement mechanism under the coordination of the Science and Technology Commission to smooth out the gains and losses of both parties.

If there is no such platform and mechanism, it is necessary to sign an extremely complex multi-party rights transfer contract, and it is normal for the relevant disputes to last for more than ten years.

...

At the same time.

"The Chinese have suddenly developed a third-generation high-thrust turbofan engine", which is a big news in both the aviation and military circles.

Therefore, it is impossible that the French are the only ones who pay attention to this.

At least, Bai Lide and Zhou Ruifu, who were at the parade site that day, soon found clues from the photos after developing them.

Of course, as military attachés, they are responsible for collecting open-source intelligence. They certainly cannot just guess and be done with it. Instead, they have to write the analysis conclusions into a written report and submit them.

But the premise of open-source intelligence collection is to have open-source intelligence.

Now there are only a few photos on hand, and they were taken during the flight of the plane. Obviously, they can't analyze them one by one.

They can only learn from the conclusions of their "peers".

"Commodore, it seems that many commentators in China believe that this new engine model may be developed on the basis of the CFM56 core engine. It is said that about ten years ago, China once obtained relevant technical information of CFM56 through the relationship with the French, and then developed this benchmark model based on the F110GE100 engine."

Bai Lide put several newspapers in front of Zhou Ruifu and said.

This also includes the one that Chang Haonan had read before.

Of course, there are subsequent and more detailed reports.

However, the first article seems to have set a tone for this matter, causing at least 70% of Western media to tend to analyze it on its basis.

Of course, this is also in line with the mindset of this era.

After all, after the first flight of the J-10, many media claimed that it was a copy of the David Kingdom's Lion fighter.

However, Zhou Ruifu is an air force brigadier general and a half-aviation expert. He sneered at this statement:

"I read the article in Jane's Defense Weekly half a month ago. Although it makes sense, I know the author. He left General Electric about six or seven years ago. He wrote this just to gild his identity as a 'former senior engineer of General Electric'."

"Besides, the French themselves don't understand CFM56. Even if the Chinese really get technical information from them, it is incomplete and may even be wrong. How come they can come up with a finished product that matches the F110 engine so quickly and dare to show it at an occasion like the National Day Parade?"

This analysis is obviously very convincing, and Bai Lide was convinced on the spot.

"Then do you think it might be..."

"I saw an analysis in China these days."

Zhou Ruifu said:

"The author is a Chinese, and is very familiar with the process of China's domestic Su-27. He wrote a lot of details that outsiders could never understand. He should be, or at least have been in contact with related work."

Obviously, he was talking about that amazing essay.

Because the content was so vivid, Zhou Ruifu made a billion misjudgments about the author's identity:

"He said that when China introduced the Su-27 production line, it also introduced the AL31F technology from the Russians, but did not directly produce the original version. Instead, it upgraded the AL31F to meet the different combat needs of the Chinese Air Force and the Russian Army."

"Considering the confidentiality regulations of the Chinese side, this should not be the whole truth, but I think there must be some true parts in it. At least in the general direction, it should be much more reliable than the article in Jane's Defense Weekly..."