Chapter 733 Design Finalization Is Not the End
Snecma is the developer of the M88 engine used in the Rafale program.
The core engine used by the M88 is still the CFM56, and it has made a lot of reference to the design of the F110 and F404 engines.
There are even quite a few parts that are directly handled by General Electric.
Including the CFM56 itself, although nominally developed by Snecma and General Electric, in fact, the two are not equal at all.
For a long time, the Rafale was directly installed with two F404s for flight testing.
Although the M88 has theoretically entered mass production, the stability of the A model is very poor.
The model to be installed is the B model after the thrust reduction and improved anti-surge performance.
It is still in the development stage.
However, after General Electric withdrew its technical force, it is probably difficult to serve with the aircraft in 2001 according to the original schedule.
As for purchasing F404...
Firstly, the sudden replacement of the engine of the mass-produced aircraft will cause the flight control that has been programmed to be rewritten, and secondly...
General Motors is obviously taking revenge for failing to destroy the euro and France's leading betrayal in the Allied Operations under the instruction of the big boss behind the scenes.
How could they sell you F404 casually?
"Otherwise..."
Ziegler suddenly had a bold idea.
The man originally just came over to chat, after all, General Motors' withdrawal was not a secret, but Ziegler rarely got involved in military aircraft projects, so the information in this regard was not updated quickly enough.
But now that he heard that he seemed to have a new idea, his eyes suddenly lit up:
"Do you have any alternative plan?"
In fact, Ziegler just thought that he could either go to the British to purchase the EJ200 that was about to be put into service.
But after thinking about it, I feel that the nature of Dassault and Airbus is still different. The fact that A330 can use Trent 700 does not mean that Rafale can use EJ200——
When five European countries jointly developed EF2000, the French finally felt that those guys were not good enough, so they independently developed Rafale.
Now you go back to the British to buy EJ200?
Even if others are willing to sell, they probably can't afford to lose face.
So making this suggestion is really asking for trouble.
So he shook his head decisively:
"No... No, I just want to say that Snecma has been in the engine field for many years, so there should be a way to solve it."
The other party shrugged:
"Well... That's right, at most it's just a matter of reducing the thrust... Anyway, the Air Force model is easy to deal with, but the Navy model will be a little more troublesome..."
"..."
After a chat, the man stretched out his hand to Ziegler:
"Oliver Wei Li, head of Dassault Aviation's Civil Aircraft Division in China."
"Bernard Ziegler."
In the European aviation industry, Ziegler does not need to report his title in most cases.
In fact, there are very few colleagues who don't know him, and saying his name again is just a normal courtesy.
"Speaking of which, your company's business volume in China... is it so much that you need to set up a special region?"
Ziegler gave up the idea of using his naked eyes to see something from the bulkhead, and simply turned around and chatted with Wei Li.
"No, the China region is just a shell at the moment."
Dassault's civil aircraft division mainly deals in business jets, and has basically no business overlap with Airbus, so the latter has no need to bluff, but directly denied:
"In fact, up to now, we have not sold the first aircraft in China, but after the signing of the agreement last month, the higher-ups are very optimistic about the rapid development of the Chinese business jet market, so they plan to send a few people here in advance to set up an office."
...
At the same time.
Before letting the European delegation into the production area for a visit, the leaders on the Chinese side had naturally already seen it once.
However, for the chief who came in person this time, what he saw in the control room before was the focus, so he just walked around the equipment and took a few glances. At this time, he had already sat in a conference room with the die forging press and several core responsible comrades on Jiang Zhong's side.
"The workpiece that was just produced should be part of the domestic fuselage of Project No. 11?"
This part is now an internal discussion after the ceremony. In theory, it is not a very serious part. Generally, it is just a casual chat about what we have seen and heard just now.
However, the leaders present this time are of different levels after all, so we can't be too casual.
"Yes, leader."
The people next to him looked at each other for a few times, and finally He Ming, who was in charge of the production and manufacturing of Project No. 11, spoke:
"The old models of Su-27 and J-11 used segmented casting and then welding for this part, but now it can be directly formed by die forging, which has great benefits in shortening processing time and reducing the weight of the fuselage structure."
"Is this the technology provided by Sukhoi, or..."
Leaders with technical backgrounds ask very detailed questions about technology research and development.
As soon as this question came out, He Ming sat up straight:
"It is within the framework of Project No. 11, and the improvement plan is jointly finalized by us and Russian technicians, and both parties share intellectual property rights!"
For a project that has only been introduced for three years, it is indeed quite rare to achieve this level.
Therefore, after listening to the report, the leader also seemed very interested:
"Then this should be considered... the first time we have achieved technical feedback to the Russian side in Project No. 11?"
"This... strictly speaking, it doesn't count..."
He Ming subconsciously turned his head and glanced at Chang Haonan opposite:
"Before, General Chang and the comrades of the 14th Institute of Electronics developed an airborne jamming system, which was also an equal technology exchange with the Russian side in the name of aircraft accessories."
The eyes of several leaders in the front row also turned to the latter.
Chang Haonan, who was suddenly caught up in the conversation, quickly replied:
"Yes, it is actually the one installed on the JH-7. The Russian side wants to install it on their new tactical bomber platform."
"We considered at the time that the potential of the JH-7 platform is really limited, so our army's dedicated electronic warfare models will sooner or later be transferred to the J-11 series. Now let Sukhoi try it first, which will also help us to refer to it in subsequent research and development, so we agreed to use this technology in exchange for an ion plating technology production line. The WS-10 can build a prototype so quickly, and this production line also contributed to it."
"But..."
At this point, Chang Haonan changed the subject:
"This matter is just for convenience, it is operated in the name of Project No. 11, but it actually has little to do with the aircraft itself, so strictly speaking, the upgrade of the fuselage structure carried out by Mr. He can be regarded as the first in the true sense."
Today's tribute itself has already attracted his full attention, so there is no need to continue to steal the limelight in this link.
You can't eat alone.
As expected, the leaders' attention returned to He Ming:
"I heard from Comrade Li Liangxin that there will be an air formation of domestically-made third-generation fighter jets in this year's National Day military parade. Will the aircraft in it use the fuselage components made today?"
"That's not the case."
He Ming shook his head slowly:
"We provided a technical verification aircraft and two first-stage prototypes for Project 9910. However, in order to ensure the stability of the aircraft, they have all undergone relatively long flight tests to confirm that there are no problems."
"Although the prototype of the J-11B is expected to be assembled before National Day, it is a brand-new structure with a brand-new power after all. If there is not enough time for stability testing, it is still not easy to directly participate in the military parade."
One good thing about leaders who understand technology is that they respect objective laws, so they easily accept such explanations.
"Comrade He Ming just mentioned the new power."
He looked at Chang Haonan again:
"Comrade Chang Haonan, in more than a month, the Aviation Power Group will be officially established. As a specially appointed chief planner, do you have any specific ideas for the business development of the new group?"
Hearing this question, He Ming opposite and Lin Jingtang next to him shuddered obviously.
If there weren't so many leaders on this occasion, I'm afraid they would have to shout out-
Chang Haonan did say before that he had sought a position in the newly established Aviation Power Group.
But the position you mentioned is directly with the word "general" in it?
And this is a second-level central enterprise, the chief planner, if it is a member of the leadership team...
The level is a bit scary.
However, Chang Haonan's attention will definitely not be on these two people at this time.
The big boss has spoken, and he must take this opportunity to shake out the plan in his mind:
"After the establishment of the group, the first task is of course to finalize the design of several new models of engines, including the WS-10. After all, it is the first battle after the aviation power is established independently."
"As for the next step, I mainly arranged two key directions."
"First, we will further give play to the training opportunities of the WS-10 project, so that comrades from various units who have participated in the development of the WS-10 can return to their posts and carry out necessary technical upgrades for some of our country's existing engines with older technology but large installed capacity."
"On the other hand, for the WS-10 model itself, the design finalization is by no means the end, but a new starting point. At present, this model is still subject to several key processes, resulting in relatively limited production capacity, and may even affect the future production scale of two types of third-generation fighters in my country. Therefore, I personally plan to continue to lead the team to tackle the problems of insufficient production efficiency and yield rate!"