Blue and White Society

Chapter 283: Mozi's Doubts

"According to what you said, if the containment object really exists, it was there as early as the Yanshi period. Later, six hundred years later, it was passed down to Gongshu Ban, and then it was given to Mozi, and then because of the sufferings of the Mo family, He was severely suppressed and completely annihilated without a trace, right? Why don't you start with Chi You? Chi You also has seventy-two "brothers" who bite stones and swallow gold." Mo Qiong asked with a smile.

Yingfei said: "That's too long ago. There is no need to involve everything. At least there are clear records in the pre-Qin period. We modern people can say that Yanshi's prostitution was made up by Liezi, but Liezi was a familiar person. If the palace notes from the Zhou royal family are false, it means that he is arranging the affairs of the deceased king, King Mu of Zhou, and this behavior is not a trivial matter. "

"The story of the Foolish Old Man who moved the mountains is not a problem if he made it up as a fable. After all, it is about ordinary people in the mountains, and it is also very philosophical. But King Mu of Zhou hated the fact that puppets seduced his concubines. If the royal palace notes it Without a single word of record, did Liezi dare to promote this based on his imagination? At that time, the world was still under the Zhou royal family, and Zheng was also one of the vassal states with the surname Ji. How dare Liezi make such a pure statement?

"Not to mention whether the royal family will cause trouble for him. Just in terms of public opinion, there will be countless gentlemen reprimanding and making fun of King Zhou Mu. This is simply challenging the bottom line of gentlemen. At that time, there will be countless literati who will hate this 'keyboard' "

"Writing fables on the head of King Mu of Zhou was not allowed in the social atmosphere at that time, unless... there was clearly a prototype in the royal annotations of the Zhou royal family. Maybe even the more knowledgeable people at the time knew that there was such a thing. "

"Otherwise, I don't think Liezi would write an unphilosophical thing out of thin air."

After hearing Ying Fei's words, Mo Qiong lowered his head and thought.

When Infei said this, it felt so reasonable...

Yanshi's prostitution is probably one of Liezi's many fables.

To modern people, this kind of thing looks like a fable imagined by Liezi. But is this really a fable? What’s the philosophy? What did you say?

Xue Tan Xuexue's fable tells people that there is no end to learning any skill, and they should not be complacent with just a few achievements.

The fable of the Foolish Old Man who moved the mountains tells people that if you persevere, if you have a will, things will come true.

The fable of Bian Que's change of heart tells people that everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses, and they should take the strengths of others to make up for their own shortcomings.

"Master Yan made a prostitute, emmm..." Mo Qiong thought for a long time, but he didn't realize what the story was about.

If I had to say it, it would be the last sentence of this fable: After hearing about Yanshi, neither Lu Ban nor Mozi dared to mention their superb skills.

Is this the philosophy Liezi wants to say? If so, wouldn't it be the same as 'Xue Tan Xueyuan'? And it's not as good as that one.

Because Yanshi Made Prostitutes, the whole article mainly talks about Yanshi offering wood for prostitution to King Mu of Zhou. Only the last sentence slightly mentions the shame of Lu Ban and Mozi, and never mentions the art of wooden armor.

It is too far-fetched to say that the central idea is to prevent people from being complacent.

Wouldn’t it be nice to have ‘Xue Tan Xueyuan’? Why bother to write about Yanshi in a large space and bring out the deceased king?

It is better to say that Liezi is expressing: Mozi and Luban are nothing special. At the beginning, Yanshi presented a wooden prostitute to King Mu of Zhou. She could sing and dance better than a real person, and even played with King Mu's concubine. These two are not at the pinnacle of wood armor skills, Yanshi is.

Yingfei said: "This is more like Liezi showing off what he saw in the palace notes, which is really Mozi's trick."

"This..." Mo Qiong smiled and didn't take it seriously.

"It's a pity that Lu Ban died early and didn't see what Liezi said, and Mozi doesn't know whether he saw it or not. But Mozi's spirit is to study the principles of the art of wooden armor. Even if he saw it, he wouldn't care. What Liezi said. Liezi didn't understand Mozi's thoughts at all, and he didn't hit the key point." Yingfei said.

"Oh? Are you saying that Mozi's inventions are more inclined to practicality and exploration of principles?" Mo Qiong asked.

Yingfei nodded and said: "Yes, Mozi once criticized Gongshuban for making things that were not beneficial to people. Building a flying wooden bird is not as good as the wooden jigsaw made by ordinary craftsmen. The wooden jigsaw is mounted on the axle, and the car can be used. What is the actual use of a wooden bird? If it is beneficial to people, it is called clever, and if it is not beneficial to people, it can only be called clumsy."

"This is the attitude of Mozi, which can even be said to be close to the scientific spirit. Therefore, Mozi built crossbows and ladders, four-wheeled vehicles and scales, pistons and resonators, and even conducted research on optics and mechanics, and proposed early atoms. On... I think even if Mozi was a user of the containment object, he would probably just sneer when he saw what Liezi said: You don't understand what I want to do. It's not that I am inferior to Yanshi, but Yanshi is inferior to me. Don't take advantage of me. Compared with Yanshi, he is just a mediocre person who makes toys to serve the powerful. "

"Mozi's "The Will of Heaven" has made it very clear that heaven encompasses all things in the universe, and the Will of Heaven is the law of nature. His thought itself is a materialist with a scientific spirit, but he also understands ghosts... He treats nature as The laws and the human mind are combined to formulate a theory that is both idealistic and materialistic.”

Mo Qiong said: "This is Mozi's attempt to use the bright ghost to restrain people's hearts in order to save the chaos of the collapse of rituals and music. He respects heaven and serves ghosts, so that people will not do evil things."

Ying Fei said: "Before he proposed Minggui, did people not believe in ghosts and gods? He was simply doing something unnecessary. In terms of Mozi's pragmatic character, Renxia is more meaningful. Good and evil will be rewarded. If the gods and ghosts don't take revenge, the Mohists will. Facts have also proved that Renxia has a greater effect. At that time, Mohist disciples traveled around the countries and were in their heyday. The dignitaries of various countries would rather fool ghosts than Mohist disciples. Because ghosts may not necessarily come to seek revenge, but Mohist disciples will definitely abandon their families and come to kill them with swords."

"During the heyday of Mohism, wherever there were Mohists, the public security was surprisingly good. Because if you kill someone for no reason, , Mohists will definitely take up their swords to report when they hear this. If one Mohist is killed, all Mohists within a hundred miles will take the initiative to put down their hoes, go home and get a sword to come to the door. If all Mohists within a hundred miles are killed, Mohists from all over the country will gather here, or even more... There is a way to kill all Mohists in the world, otherwise the powerful will surely die, and the monarch will not be saved. "

"The matter of Ming Gui is just verbally using ghosts to shock the world, but in fact, it is tens of millions of Mohists who shock the monarchs of various countries. When the Mohist school declines, what is the use of Ming Gui? Mohists like crazy are ghosts. "

Mo Qiong knew what Ying Fei meant. If ghosts were useful, rituals and music would not collapse.

It is better for Confucianism to strengthen morality than to strengthen people's awe of ghosts and gods.

Since Mozi was a knight-errant, it is impossible for him not to know that Ming Gui is useless. From what he did, he was clearly a pragmatic person. He knew very well that the sword of Mohists was more useful than the heavenly ghost who monitored the world and followed the will of heaven.

"You mean, Mozi wavers between materialism and idealism?" Moqiong asked.

Yingfei shook his head and said, "No, Tianzhi is his worldview, and Minggui is also his worldview. He just added Tiangui to the natural law of Tianzhi to make up for his theory, because he felt that natural laws alone could not explain all his doubts. He must add an idealist variable that changes according to human heart to make his "universe model" more perfect."

"What is the difference between this idea... and Newton's?"

Moqiong was stunned. As a member of the Blue and White Society, he certainly knew that Newton was a pioneer of the Blue and White Society's thought. Newton studied theology in his later years because the containment subverted his materialistic scientific view.

Newton was like that because he came into contact with the containment, not because he wanted a place to rely on when he was old.

So... what about Mozi? What did he come into contact with?

"Mozi is a researcher with a scientific spirit. He is different from Yanshi in that he is not pursuing how lifelike the product of the wood armor art is, but why... that thing... can make wood armor wonders." Mo Qiong followed Yingfei's thoughts and said.

Yingfei was delighted and said, "That's right! He is the same as Newton... No, it is Newton and him who are using the scientific spirit to study the containment. You and I know the consequences of this."

Mo Qiong certainly knows that using a scientific attitude to study the containment will inevitably lead to confusion.

Because the containment often has an idealistic variable, such as the song of reversal of physiology based on the inner gender cognition. If you think you are a man, you will turn into a woman. How idealistic is this?

Even some containments are directly judged by the holder to define "one". For example, if the lower body of a person is completely annihilated, is the remaining part considered "a person"? As far as Mo Qiong knows, there is a containment object that will be judged according to the human heart, which will lead to different effects when used by two people, because one person thinks it is "half a person", and the other thinks it is "a person", but the lower half of the body is destroyed.

Even the Blue and White Society can't figure out why the containment object is like this, let alone Mo Zi? It is impossible to know the reason.

"Mo Zi must have held the containment object, but he has a scientific spirit, so he wants to study the "Heaven's Will" from the containment object, that is, the law of nature. He did it. After all, it is the art of wooden armor. It is normal to summarize some optical and mechanical principles and figure out the principles of crossbows. But that's it. He can't study the thing itself and the products such as wooden men derived from it thoroughly."

"So, he thinks that the Heaven's Will is still flawed. Not everything in the universe is in the materialistic natural law, and an idealistic variable must be added. That is the Heavenly Ghost... a Heaven's Will that really changes according to human will, that is, an absolute characteristic."

After listening to Ying Fei's speculation, Mo Qiong was deeply moved.

I have to say, this guy is really capable of persuading his superiors to allocate money to support him in his search for the "Art of Wooden Armor" several times.

What he said was enough to impress the Blue and White Society and spend some money to support him.

What if he finds it?

However, Yingfei has been looking for it for several years and has not found it, and now he is no longer supported.

"My special funds are gone, and the superiors will not allow me to find and excavate ancient tombs from the Pre-Qin and Han dynasties without authorization."

"But I didn't give up. I found another ancient tomb some time ago, from the Pre-Qin period, and it was on the route when Qin Shihuang made his eastern tour. Because it is not a noble tomb, it seems to be just an ordinary person's tomb, but it is surprisingly large, I plan to dig it privately..."

"Ahem... Can you support some funds, brother?"

"..." Mo Qiong looked strange.

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P.S.: Sorry.

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