Chapter 1069 Military Product Line?
The model number cannot be said, but the parameters can be provided.
This outrageous situation immediately put Ren Bingda out of control.
In fact, as an engineer of Haofa Group, he does not know much about the situation of SeA650, and it is impossible for him to make decisions for others on this key decision.
But considering that he was still in Luo Luo's office at the moment, he couldn't act too incomprehensible, so he had to put on a posture of "everything is under control":
"Technically speaking, as long as the relevant parameters can be provided, we can provide customized permanent magnet power generation systems, and because the reliability of the entire technology has been proven on the SeA650,...if you are willing, you can even consider it No mechanical backup is installed, further reducing weight and parts count.”
Upon hearing this answer, the three Luo Luo people on the opposite side looked happy almost at the same time.
Among them, Panos Watson directly took a document that had been prepared on the table:
"Then this accident investigation report..."
But the casting movement was quickly interrupted by Ren Bingda:
"But without specific model information, it is difficult for us to estimate the future potential of this cooperation..."
The meaning is very clear, that is, you are worried that you British people will dig out a gadget from the pile of old papers that not many people will use, and just build a few or a dozen of them as a token to get rid of us.
For a century-old factory like Rolls-Royce, this kind of worry is very necessary.
After all, you have no idea how many ancient or medieval aircraft around the world still need after-sales service from them.
Watson was stunned for a moment when he heard this, and then looked at Roger Elinor who was not far away, and quickly guessed Ren Bingda's worries:
"In this regard, we can guarantee that the initial order quantity of this model will not be less than 500 units, and the lifetime production will not be less than 1,500 units. In addition, in addition to the hardware part of each unit, we will also provide you with premium products based on the production volume. The party pays for the program itself.”
This condition is quite good.
It was even so good that Ren Bingda couldn't believe it.
After all, the core of permanent magnet power generation equipment, namely non-contact magnetic bearings, is actually produced in the UK.
Judging from the mysterious appearance of the other party, it is probably a more sensitive model than the Trent 900. It is unlikely that the entire system will be manufactured in China and then exported.
There must be a change of hands in the middle.
Or simply produce it in the UK, with China only providing some parts.
In short, there will inevitably be some discounts on profits at the hardware level.
I’m afraid the main income is still in the cost of developing the plan.
Now the other party has taken the initiative to propose not to engage in a one-time deal on the design, but to charge based on shipment volume. With the expected output of 500-1500 units, this is undoubtedly a favorable plan for China.
Under normal circumstances, this requires suppliers, especially solution suppliers, to negotiate.
Of course, no matter how good the conditions were, Ren Bingda could not make a decision on the spot, so he had to say a set of nice words to express that the matter was not within his scope of authority and needed to be left to his superiors in the country for decision-making.
This is not the first time Luo Luo has cooperated with China. Looking at the tone of Ren Bingda's statement, he knew that this was not a delaying measure, so he did not insist more. He just repeatedly asked Ren Bingda to improve efficiency. The two sides are now in the same boat. , if the entire plan of Trent 900 is affected, it will be a lose-lose outcome.
However, Ren Bingda is not just staying in Luoluo these days.
This level of PUA has no effect on him:
"I heard... that negotiations between you and Airbus have been restarted, so this report shouldn't be so urgent, right?"
One sentence directly hit the point.
Watson and Purdy looked embarrassed at the same time.
After hesitating for a moment, the former had no choice but to forcefully add:
"Although the immediate risk has been resolved, if the accident investigation remains unresolved for a long time, there will still be problems when entering the mass production stage."
"Especially before the A380 is installed for its first flight, Airbus and we need to review relevant documents from each other... Although because of the tight schedule, most of the time they just look at the document list, but if they find that an accident investigation continues After several months, or even more than half a year, some in-depth investigation will definitely be inevitable..."
"..."
Hearing this, Ren Bingda couldn't help laughing:
"According to the timetable, there are still nearly two years before the first flight of the A380. We in China are not British... nor are they French. We are just communicating with our superiors. It will not take so long."
The unsigned investigation results were one of the biggest bargaining chips in his hand, so naturally he couldn't let them go so easily.
After that, I even didn’t forget to do a reverse PUA wave:
"In addition, if you want my superiors to make a decision in a shorter time, maybe you can consider providing some data in advance so that we can evaluate the cooperation..."
Originally, this sentence was just said casually.
Even Ren Bingda himself didn't expect to get any positive response.
Rollo is not a Muggle.
Even though the previous cooperation with Huaxia seems to have given the latter a lot of advantages, from an overall perspective, they themselves do not suffer.
He is definitely a master who will not let go of the eagle when he sees the rabbit.
However, this time, he was really wrong.
Without waiting for Watson or Bodi to react, Eleanor spoke directly:
"In fact, we are also planning to do so."
"Then..."
Ren Bingda subconsciously prepared to say a few more closing remarks and leave.
As the words came to his lips, he found that the other party's response was completely different from what he expected.
"Hmm?"
He pressed his buttocks, which were half raised, back down.
Eleanor continued as if nothing had happened:
"As partners, I think we should have some basic trust, and I also hope that this cooperation can be settled as soon as possible."
"Of course, the relevant documents are still being sorted out, and it will take a few more days to get them out..."
Ren Bingda thought to himself that I would be a ghost if I believed you. When you were doing the OEM for Trent 900 before, you were as cautious as thieves against us. Now you are suddenly so generous, there must be something fishy.
And he suddenly realized another problem.
It was this Professor Eleanor. Although he looked inconspicuous, he seemed to be on the same level as Watson, or at least a top figure who had no affiliation with him.
You know, the latter is not only the director of Trent 900, but also the director of the entire Trent series of engines.
So what exactly does Elino mean by cooperation? It is very intriguing.
Although Rolls-Royce's product line is complex, most of them have some historical evolution, or even old models obtained from Allison, and it is impossible to upgrade such a drastic upgrade as permanent magnet power generation.
Among the new products, apart from the trump card of the Trent series, there are thousands of production potentials...
Then there is only the military product line.
Thinking of this, he finally understood why the other party said that the model could not be announced before.
This is probably not Rolls-Royce's own business needs, but the requirements of Party A in the contract...
...
After sending Ren Bingda away, Watson's expression changed instantly.
The atmosphere in the entire office also cooled down.
Bodi quickly raised his hand and quickly closed the door of the room.
"Professor Eleanor, are you sure... you want to give some data in advance?"
"What does it matter?"
Eleanor shrugged, pretending to be completely indifferent:
"Anyway, the model we jointly developed with GE has become a backup, and the data is of very limited value to us."
His answer made the other two stunned:
"With GE..."
Bodi looked confused:
"Wait... Aren't we talking about EJ200..."
"Of course not."
Eleanor showed an expression that couldn't bear to look directly at:
"EJ200 is now difficult to even finish properly, how can I use this radical new technology again?"
Watson said. Huiya finally came to his senses:
"So... from the beginning, the model you were going to look for the Chinese to cooperate with was the F136?"
Elino leaned back on the sofa, looking relaxed:
"Actually, it wasn't me who was going to look for it, but Director Tom Hartman."
"And strictly speaking, it wasn't the F136, but the lift fan of the vertical take-off and landing version of the JSF project."
"Their original plan was to completely replace traditional fulcrums with permanent magnet power generation equipment and magnetic bearings, but later found that this was too radical and could not guarantee the R&D cycle, so in the end it became only the fan that used new technology to minimize the complexity and weight of the system..."