Chapter 2131 [Cultivating Gods and Immortals: The Big Bottom 4] Talking About Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu's Past and Present
[Cultivating Gods and Immortals: The Big Bottom 4] by Tiandao Xiao Hua
Tanhua's "Cultivation of the Gods" is a huge world: the martial arts chapter "Forget Together in the Rivers and Lakes", the cultivation chapter "Light Escape", the fairyland chapter "Supreme Immortal Marks", and the godworld chapter "Immortal God Pattern", each chapter The styles are different; and the "Cultivation of the Gods" that is being written is even more of a bed and a house, allowing the Cultivation God, who has always been good at foreshadowing and layout, to arrange a big picture in a chain of links, and these There are those who plan, those who enter, those who disrupt, those who break, and those who lose. As for the "Cultivation of Gods and Immortals Chapter", which is full of conspiracy and dark official fighting style, his opening and dark lines actually all revolve around the experience of Xiao Hua, Xu Zhi, and Fairy Xingyue discovering the Heavenly Mansion in Xingyue Palace. The "Cultivation of the Gods" found next to the corpses of the two Heavenly Venerates who died together caused the story of Xiao Hua and the entire fairy world to be involved in a weird vortex, and this vortex also just made the cultivation of the gods obscure and wonderful.
1. The characters of Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu
To a large extent, Cultivation is not controlled by Tanhua, but is driven by the story. For example, Huang Mengxiang and Xun Shu, as Xiao Hua's former confidante, did not plan to fly to the Immortal World when Huang Mengxiang and Xun Shu first started in the Immortal World. One thing, not everyone can ascend. But with the development of the story and the logical closed loop of the story, everything is out of Tanhua's control. Taking Huang Mengxiang as an example, Xiao Hua once obtained the technique of ghost cultivation from Huang Yi, the elder of his family. The small character, coupled with Huang Feihu who was sealed in Taishan and controlled the eighteen hells in Fengshenyanyi, made the context of an ancient family stand out. However, in the Cultivation Chapter, the three major immortal bans in the Xiaoyu Continent needed to be filled, so Huang Mengxiang’s fate was reversed, and he was brought to the fairyland by Huang Xiaoxiao from the Huang family of the ancient family. Then, as the story developed, Huang Mengxiang became the precious sandalwood of Xiaohua Buddha Kingdom Hua Bodhisattva; there are many similar characters, such as Xun Shu, Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu to be discussed in this article.
1. The early characters and stories of Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu
Li and Bai, in the early days of the Immortal World, were only supporting roles requested by the Cultivation Lord. Li Moyi was the first to worship Xiao Hua in the Immortal World Chapter, thus opening the golden thread of faith for Xiao Hua; as for Bai Xiaotu, he had the grace to save Xiao Hua's life. The three of them met in Weishi like this, and it was precisely this kind of mutual support that helped each other. The relationship between Li Bai and Li Bai was very good. According to the current words, it is called brotherly love. And what drove the story of Li and Bai to change was a chat with Tanhua: If Li and Bai were the two heavenly deities who died together in the Yuqiong Tianfu in the previous life-the enemy in the previous life and the life-and-death brother in this life, wouldn't it be more obvious? The fantasy and weirdness of the way of heaven can add to the vividness and twists and turns of the story. In this way, Li and Bai were set as the reincarnation of the two Celestials of the Heavenly Mansion: Li Moyi, who was thoughtful and decisive, was set as the Heavenly Lord, and Bai Xiaotu was set as the other Heavenly Lord. In this way, Tanhua and I still laughed and wanted to watch a human comedy, but under the heavens, all living beings are ants, and our good wishes did not come true!
2. Many variables that affect the direction of the story
The development of the story and the ending of the characters, according to the general rate, must conform to a logical closed loop. The endings of Li and Bai are not only affected by the beliefs of their personalities in this life, but also by the awakening of the memory of the past life, as well as the identity of the past life and the current environment. Take Li Moyi as an example. Li Moyi was the Celestial Lord of the Sky in his previous life. According to Xu Zhi, "The Celestial Lord of the Sky is the most trusted Celestial King of Xuangong", and it is precisely "the most trusted Celestial" who stole the "Tianzun of Xuangong". "Immortal King"'s "Cultivation of the Gods"; and Li Moyi's aptitude was not high in this life, and he became the supreme human race amidst countless plots and killings. Think about it, can a person with a heroic personality trust someone innocently and unconditionally! However, Bai Xiaotu's past life is unknown, and this life is a child's mentality. Coupled with the information revealed in the chapter title of "Talking Flowers", Li and Bai's lives are different in this life.
2. The foreshadowing and layout of Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu's story in the Immortal World
The variable in the story of Li and Bai lies in the awakening of past life memories. The reincarnation and awakening of the former life memories of real immortals can be roughly divided into one-time awakening and gradual awakening, but no matter which kind of awakening, you must find your own stele of hidden gods. In fact, the story of Immortal World revolves around the awakening of Li and Bai, and Tanhua does not hesitate to cast doubts, trying to lead readers astray.
1. How did Li and Bai awaken past life memories
In the Immortal World chapter, the reincarnation of a true immortal awakens the memory of the previous life. Whether it is Qing Geer Gu Sheqiong, or Li and Bai, neither of them made it clear, but Xiao Hua entered the space when Qing Geer (Gu Sheqiong in the previous life) found Gu Sheqiong. Something on the corpse (the Stele of the Hidden God Yuan) disappeared, and then on the periphery of Chen Xiaohai, Brother Qing directly transformed from Dust Immortal to Jiugong Immortal, allowing Xiao Hua to get rid of the crisis of life and death. Compared with Brother Qing's one-time awakening, Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu's awakening is gradual. But the three of them, no matter which one awakens the memory of the previous life, must find the stele of the hidden god in the previous life, and their stele of the hidden god, such as Qing Geer's on Gu Sheqiong's corpse, and Li and Bai's, It was also picked up by Xiao Hua from the corpses of the two Heavenly Venerates in Glorious Heavenly Mansion and put into the space. All in all, the opportunity for Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu to awaken the memory of his previous life is to enter Xiao Hua's space.
a: Li Moyi's past life memory awakening
Li Moyi's past life memory awakened, I speculate that it should be when he was desperate and couldn't find Xiao Hua to swear the poisonous oath. According to Li Moyi himself, after the poisonous oath was made, all the barriers in his heart disappeared Not anymore; and the second step for Li Moyi to awaken, that is, the opportunity that Xiao Hua gave Li Moyi the magic ban in the Xiaoyun Cave of Yuhong Mountain, it was this opportunity that when Xiao Hua collected the magic ban, by the way let the Li Moyi on the magic forbidden entered the space, so the stele of the hidden gods was automatically fused with Li Moyi; it was this opportunity that completely changed Li Moyi's fate, it not only allowed Li Moyi to inscribe the immortal mark , and let Xiao Hua grab Li Moyi's fairy marks in front of Dao Zun, and then communicated with the heavenly secrets to cause the Moban Mountain Zhenyu Mingshi to crack. As a result of the cracking of the Zhenyu Mingshi, the eldest brother directly killed thirty-eight immortals with one arrow. And Li Moyi changed from the previous two immortal marks (one for Dao Zun and one for Xiao Hua) to only one. It was very black and humorous to say that in order to control his own destiny, Ye Qiong Tianzun in Li Moyi's previous life did not want to engrave his name on the Zhenyu Mingshi, but this life just happened to have no name.
In short, Li Moyi, who has a deep and thoughtful personality, after awakening the memory of his previous life, suddenly found that he was a little different from the Dao Nuo sent by Xiao Hua. Xiaotu, followed by Zhao Ting, then Zhou Xiaoming and others issued Daonuo. This operation of Li Moyi seemed to be loyal to Xiao Hua at the time, but in the follow-up, it seemed to be malicious.
b: Bai Xiaotu's past life memory awakening
Bai Xiaotu's fate was even worse than Li Moyi's. A child his father didn't want had his foundation hurt because of his mother's impeccable state. It can be said that before Bai Xiaotu met Xiao Hua, his aptitude was very poor. As for the change of Bai Xiaotu's aptitude, just like Li Moyi's, he obtained the essence of countless immortals who were banned from the blood sacrifice in the Xiaoyun Cave of Yuhong Mountain, thus allowing Bai Xiaotu to advance from the Nascent Soul Realm in a short period of time To the high level of Leuxian. It is also the Xiaoyun Cave of Yuhong Mountain, Xiao Hua collected the magic ban into the space, and by the way, Bai Xiaotu on the magic ban was also collected into the space, so that Bai Xiaotu's previous life's Tibetan God Yuan Monument automatically merged, and he found the awakening. An opportunity for past life memories. There is another opportunity for Bai Xiaotu to gradually awaken the memory of his past life, and that is the eighth-grade immortal wine of Jiuxian Lian Xiuyuan. Like Li Moi, Jiuxian's Eighth Grade Immortal Wine is the essence of time and memory, and can extract countless memories from the reversal of the annual rings. If measured by proportion, Jiuxian's eight-grade immortal wine has at least 60% effect on Li and Bai's awakening of past life memories.
c: How did the stele of the hidden gods merge and how was it discovered by Xiao Hua?
The stele of the hidden god is a thing in the shape of a jade pillar. Xiao Hua obtained it from the corpses of the two Heavenly Venerates in Glorious Heavenly Mansion, and also saw it on the corpse of Gu Sheqiong who died with Qingniu. But Xiao Hua didn't know what the jade pillars were-it wasn't until Qing Geer entered Xiao Hua's space and automatically merged with the previous life's hidden god stele, that Xiao Hua discovered that the two jade pillars obtained from Tianzun were also missing, because the Nine Heavens Profound Girl was weird Xiao Hua's disappearance, Xiao Hua took it for granted and blamed Nine Heavens Profound Girl. It wasn't until Xiao Hua personally saw Jiang Meihua merging with his own stele of hidden gods that he discovered this mystery, and thus let readers know that if an immortal reincarnates to awaken his past life memories, he must find his own stele of hidden gods, and the stele of hidden gods will automatically If they merged, then the steles of the hidden gods of the two missing Celestials are gone. In other words, the two Celestials of the Glorious Heavenly Mansion have already been reincarnated. Although there are doubts about Tanhua, we still found some clues from Li Moyi and Bai Xiaotu who lost contact with Xiao Hua after Chen Xiaohai: such as Bai Xiaotu's sudden disappearance and Li Moyi's method of capturing He Qiong And so on, it is enough to show that Li and Bai are the reincarnations of the two Heavenly Venerates of Yuqiong Tianfu.
3. Why Li Moyi betrayed Xiao Hua
Tanhua doesn't like routines, and doesn't like to repeat herself, so the style of the Immortal World chapter is completely different from the martial arts chapter and the comprehension chapter. It is the history of Xiao's company's growth under the atmosphere of conspiracy and dark official struggle. Just like the reality, not everyone can accompany each other through the fleeting years: Li Moyi, as the first believer in Xiao Hua, is also the first to betray Xiao Hua Yes, both in the sense of cultivating the gods and in the sense of reality in life, it is full of ritual sense. In other words, Li Moi's betrayal is not as abrupt as some readers think, but it is more in line with the truth of a logical closed loop in highlighting the mystery of the way of heaven and the reality of life.
1. Personality factors
No matter whether it was the Heavenly Lord Ye Qiong in the previous life or Li Moyi in this life, they all fought life and death through countless conspiracies and tricks, and they would not be foolish and naive to trust others.
2. Cultivate God
Although the fairy world chapter has nothing to do with cultivating gods, cultivating gods is everywhere. Borrowing the words of the third junior brother of Moban Mountain, "I am afraid that there is only one place of immortality." If an immortal wants to escape from immortality and control his destiny in his own hands, sometimes he has to face many things that he does not want to face. After discovering Dao Nuo's eccentricity, Li Moi realized the power of this poisonous oath, a sense of uneasiness that his fate was being manipulated by others made Li Moi not want to be a slave of fate—let the one who enslaves himself fall, the one who enslaves himself You will no longer enslave yourself.
3. The identity of Tianzun and Xiao Hua's own strength
Tianzun is a peerless arrogance among hundreds of millions. He has his own self-esteem and pride. It is a completely different feeling to commit himself to someone whose strength is far inferior to his own and to commit himself to someone whose strength is far superior to his own. What's more, when Li Moyi and Xiao Huachen Xiaohai broke up, Xiao Hua was still a fairy baby. For Tianzun Li Moyi, he must know the key points of the fairy baby's condensed body. In Li Moyi's view, Xiao Hua may not be able to condense the body, even if the condensed body succeeds, the highest achievement in this life is no more than a true immortal. Let the majestic Tianzun commit himself to the golden fairy as a slave, and Li Moyi, who couldn't get over the hurdle in his heart, could only find a way to kill Li Moyi with a knife without violating his oath.
4. Li Moyi's cognition about rebirth and reincarnation
As a Celestial Venerable, Li Moi must have a certain understanding of rebirth and reincarnation, and must know that reincarnation awakens the memory of the previous life to hide the stele of the gods. Based on this, Li Moyi can know that Xiao Hua must have seen his own corpse and found his own stele of hidden gods. Based on the need to protect himself, Li Moyi has no reason to let Xiao Hua live. In fact, Li Moi also knew that the reincarnation of Celestial Lord Ye Qiong was enough to shake the fairy world, causing countless conspirators to rush like flies. As the reincarnation of Ye Qiong Tianzun, his body would be smashed to pieces. Therefore, Star Tower City bewitched Zhao Ting's sunspot to see Ye Feng, not only the result of Li Moyi's layout of Zhao Ting's betrayal of Xiao Hua, but also the fact that Li Moyi had already blamed Xiao Hua, making others suspect that Xiao Hua was Ye Feng. The idea of Qiong Tianzun. What is extremely frightening is that although Li Moyi did not see how Xiao Hua killed Zhao Ting, Li Moyi had already predicted that Xiao Hua's method of killing Zhao Ting would be very strange.
5. Coveting the resources of the business alliance
For the former Tianzun, the more famous business alliance organizations in the fairy world must be familiar. The Luoyi business alliance that has become a blockbuster in Chenxiaohai and even surpassed Yuxian not only means Qian Jing, but also means various opportunities for cultivation and control of the fairy world. of various information. In this regard, Li Moi may not have the idea of controlling the Luoyi Business Alliance.
4. Ye Qiongtian respects its people and its affairs
Li Moyi's previous life, Celestial Lord, appeared for the first time in the Cultivation Chapter, Xiao Hua Xu Zhi Xingyue fairy Xingyue Palace adventures, found the Glorious Sky Mansion living in Xingyue Palace. According to Xu Zhi, Yeqiong Tianzun only became Tianzun in the last 20 million years (this time may not be accurate), and he is the most trusted Tianzun of Immortal King Xuangong. It was because of this that the secret was spread out, even though Immortal King Xuan Gong never admitted it. Then, whether Heavenly Lord Yeqiong is a betrayer or a betrayed one, we must start with Immortal King Xuan Gong. In the chapter of "The Supreme Master of the Liu Family" in the Immortal World Chapter, Yuezhen Tianzun, Zhengfa Tianzun, and Bomin Tianzun jointly issued an ultimatum to the Liu family. According to the dialogue between the head of the Liu family and the elder Taishang, we learned that the fairy king behind Yuezhen Tianzun On the surface, he is the Immortal King Boye Boye, but in fact he is the Immortal King Xuangong. From the details of the Immortal World Chapter, we can infer that Immortal King Xuan Gong is not a simple person. Xu Zhi's evaluation of Celestial Lord Ye Qiong may not be accurate. Then we can learn from the recent Hua is the message of Celestial Celestial Sky to make our judgment, Xiao Hua is the message of Celestial Celestial Celestial from Daozu Tiangong, and it is obvious that Li Moyi created this message, then Li Moyi's previous Celestial Celestial Sky and Celestial Celestial Daozu Tiangong has a lot to do with it.
Based on the dialogue between the head of the Liu family and the elder of the Liu family, we have come to the following conclusions:
Yuezhen Tianzun (the controller of the Enlightenment Continent of the Mingdao Immortal Domain, which is under the jurisdiction of the Dao Zun Tiangong), on the surface is the subordinate of the Immortal King Boye, but in fact is the subordinate of the Immortal King Xuangong (an ancient family According to the Liu Family Taishang). The Tianzun Mansion of Yuezhen Tianzun monitors the inheritance of soul cultivation in the Enlightenment Continent and the four major continents; it is also one of the behind-the-scenes forces behind the dramatic changes in the Liu family. ;
Bomin Tianzun, Bomin Tianzun is the Tianzun Mansion Tianzun of Jixiao Continent (Jixiao Continent is located in the Zixuan Immortal Domain and is under the jurisdiction of the Taoist Heavenly Palace); he is the subordinate of the Immortal King Li (li), and the boy of the Moban Mountain Master is very concerned about him , and was mentioned by the ancestor of the Nine-Tailed Fox. One of the behind-the-scenes drivers of the Liu family's upheaval;
Demonstrating the Law Tianzun, Zhengfa Tianzun is Tianqing Continent (Tianqing Continent is located in the Tianwu Immortal Domain and is under the jurisdiction of the Daozu Tiangong) Tianzun Mansion Tianzun, Yuqing Immortal King's subordinate;
So whether Celestial Lord Yeqiong is a betrayer or a betrayer, we only need to know whether Immortal King Xuangong belongs to the Heavenly Palace of Daozu, or Heavenly Palace of Daoist or Lord Tiangong; Betrayer; if Immortal King Xuangong belongs to the Taoist Heavenly Palace or the Taoist Heavenly Palace, then Yeqiong Tianzun is likely to be betrayed. But no matter which one, Ye Qiong Tianzun's character is extremely complicated. He may not trust anyone because he is a betrayer, and he will also have greater hatred and hatred at this time because he was betrayed. bias.
5. Bai Xiaotu's past life and ending in this life
1. The ending of Bai Xiaotu's past life and present life
Bai Xiaotu has a natal supernatural power, his natural insight, he can see the level of fairy artifacts, runes, and immortal forbidden. The supernatural power is similar to that of Huang Xiaoxiao and Feng Ronger's Duobao Tianzun, also known as Xunzhi Tianzun. "I heard that this mysterious Xunzhi Tianzun only needs to touch it with his finger, and he can know the secrets inside, no matter if it is a fairy artifact, a rune or a fairy forbidden!" Therefore, it can be known that Bai Xiaotu is Duobao Tianzun ( Also known as Xunzhi Tianzun), it is this feminine title of Tianzun, which is enough to show that Bai Xiaotu's previous life was flat and weak. Coupled with Bai Xiaotu's innocence in this life and Xiao Qi's persuasiveness, then Bai Xiaotu's future achievements are really as Tan Hua said in the title of the chapter-"Chapter 465 Luo Yi" The future business owner of the business alliance!"
2. Duobao Taoist and Duobao Tianzun
There is no doubt that Tanhua’s setting of Duobao Tianzun was inspired by Duobao Taoist. In fact, Tanhua also intends to equate Duobao Taoist with Duobao Tianzun; but this equivalence will make some settings of Xiushen inconsistent.
a: Daoist Duobao is the eldest disciple of Master Tongtian in "Fengshen Yanyi". After the Conferred God War, he converted to the West and became the Buddha Lord of the Eastern Pure Glass World. Therefore, Daoist Duobao's future destination belongs to the Buddhist kingdom;
b: Duobao Taoist is a figure named after Guang Chengzi and other ancient twelve golden immortals. In the fairy world chapter, Xiao Hua entered the Great Immortal Formation of Conferred Gods. The three flowers and five qi of the twelve golden immortals are enough to support Xiao Hua's cultivation to Hunyuan of;
c: According to Xu Zhi's words, Ye Qiong Tianzun is the latest Tianzun in the fairy world, so he is definitely not as good as Taoist Duobao in terms of accumulation of foundation. It is possible that they will die together, but Heavenly Lord Yeqiong will be killed by Taoist Duobao.
Therefore, Duobao Taoist is definitely not Duobao Tianzun. Why Duobao Tianzun has similar talents to Duobao Taoist? Come on Baoyan. Then we might as well set Duobao Tianzun as the spirit of Fenbaoyan. Of course, in the Battle of Conferred Gods, Fen Baoyan was broken, and Bai Xiaotu was not a complete weapon spirit, and part of it was attributed to Xiaoqi Yang Junke.
Attachment: Fen Baoyan Shang Hongjun gave treasures to Lao Tzu: Taiji map, Lidiyan flag, Kowloon golden staff, Eight scene palace lanterns, Tushizi Ziyan, Wordless Tianshu, Xuandu Tianli, Wuguang box, Feiyun mace, Sumeru pot, dragon and phoenix qin, map of heaven and earth, monument of Laojun Renjiao, etc.
Hongjun on Fenbaoyan gave treasures to Yuanshi: Pangu Banner, Zhutian Qingyun, Wuji Xinghuang Banner, Nine Dragons Agarwood Chariot, Yuxu Glazed Lantern, Blood Talisman Calling for Life, Yin and Yang Stove, Taiji Talisman Seal, Tianzhong, Suddenly Leiqin, Xingyun stick, Natian bag, Xuantian silk, Tianji prophecy, spirit-eating needle, five-fire and seven-bird fan, Yuanshi elucidation tablet, etc.
Hongjun bestowed treasures on Fen Baoyan to Tongtian: Zhuxian Sword Formation (Zhuxian Four Swords + Zhuxian Formation), Hunyuan Fuchen, 24 Dinghai Pearls, 12th Grade Fire Red Lotus, Hunyuan Jindou, Chuanxin Lock, Fishing Drum, Purple Electric Hammer, Picture of Hidden Immortals, Nine-Dragon Tripod, Sky Swallowing Canopy, Rainbow Cord, Shining Sky Seal, Broken Spirit Cone, Four Elephant Pagoda, Dragon and Tiger Ruyi, Sun and Moon Beads, Jinxia Crown, Duobao Pagoda, Cosmos Bag, Gold Fengzan, Longyin Xiao, Zhiming Dao, Fenglei Scissors, Ruyi Bag, Tongtian Jiejiao Monument, etc.
6. The Ending of Lee Moy
After Li Moyi designed Zhao Ting to violate the first iron law of the Good Fortune Gate, "Those who can kill each other from the same family, they will be killed without mercy", the end is almost inevitable. But how did Li Moyi die? Did he die at the hands of Bai Xiaotu, or was he killed by other Tianzun's beatings, or did he die because of his own poisonous oath, "The emperor is above, and the earth is below. I, Li Moi, are here!" I swear, I would like to take Zhang Xiaohua as my master, follow her for the rest of my life, and never betray her. If I violate this oath, I will not enter reincarnation, and my soul will turn into ashes and disappear in the air.” Actually, it is still full of variables. But according to the current clues in the Immortal World Chapter, Li Moyi still uses a borrowed knife to kill Xiao Hua. In other words, Li Moyi will always stay on the cliff that violates the oath and will not jump down, so Li Moyi's oath may be very small of.
Under Li Moyi's design and the ancient aristocratic Liu family's recruitment of relatives has attracted the attention of various forces, Xiao Hua's exile in the Seven Realms has become inevitable. And Xiao Hua's "Li Moyi is the reincarnation of Yeqiong" through Gao Lingsong's mouth will also become a countermeasure, but anyway, the fairyland is still not safe for Li Moyi, and Li Moyi's fate lies in Sooner or later he was found by the Heavenly Venerates, maybe Li Moyi's death would have nothing to do with Xiao Hua, before Xiao Hua saw Li Moyi, Li Moyi was still a disciple of Good Fortune Gate, Li Moyi could be purged by Good Fortune Gate for betrayal , but Li Moi cannot be cleaned by others. Of course, the story variables of Ye Qiong Tianzun also make Li Moyi's ending full of variables, but there are two points of black humor:
1. When the elder brother killed 38 dust immortals with one arrow, there was no Li Moyi's name in Moban Mountain. The black humor is that this is what the previous Yeqiong Tianzun wanted to do and never did;
2. Bai Xiaotu said, Brother Li, do you know that the greatest luck in my life is the poisonous oath you made me swear to the master;
I don't know if Li Moy will be annoyed when he knows all this. Of course, according to Li Moy's heroic character, he may not be annoyed. After all, according to Li Moy's words, "Reincarnation is a game where fate cannot be controlled by oneself"! In any case, Li Moyi is the most exciting and outstanding character in the Cultivation of Gods and Immortals. That is, in Li Moyi's thought, the fates of Li Moyi and He Qiong, Bai Xiaotu and Yang Junke, Zhao Ting and Heizi, and even Xiao Hua and more people were reversed in this way! In short, Li Moi has created a huge vortex, and everyone can't help themselves in this huge vortex. We can say that "no snowflake is innocent during an avalanche", yes, no snowflake is innocent during an avalanche of!