Chapter 710 Reluctantly Agreeing to Produce the D227 Engine

Chapter 710 Reluctantly agrees to produce D-227 engines

Although Mingzhou Group is growing stronger and stronger, many things are still done according to the previous rules. Xu Zhengyang is also faithfully fulfilling his obligations. He must accurately report anything that happens to Qin Tao.

Just like this time, Lao Ba said that he would provide the wreckage of the Tomahawk missile, so Xu Zhengyang reported the matter, and then his superiors conveyed the news to the Third Aerospace Institute, which specializes in cruise missiles, so Liu Yong Came here.

Now, he was very much looking forward to getting the wreckage of this missile, but he didn't expect that Qin Tao actually had other arrangements.

If Mingzhou Group and Lao Ba jointly established a design unit, there would really be nothing wrong with their Third Aerospace Institute. However, they have been working on it for so long, and now that they have this opportunity, they absolutely cannot just go home.

Liu Yong looked at Zhao Ling expectantly, and then Zhao Ling spoke: "Mr. Qin, can we invite some experts from the Third Aerospace Academy to participate in our project?"

The things were made by the Mingzhou Group, and the related technology was also wanted by the Mingzhou Group. Their Third Aerospace Institute is currently in a situation where they cannot touch it at all. Now, if they want to get in touch with the wreckage, there is only one way: as a technology Consultant, join this R&D team!

Although Qin Tao decided to let his people working on fighter jets work on this project, after all, they had never been exposed to it and were starting from scratch. If experts from the Third Aerospace Academy come to help, Qin Tao's people can quickly master it. Regarding cruise missile research technology, it can be said that such cooperation is a win-win situation.

As for competition?

By dragging Lao Ba along with them in research and development, they already have customers. The projects of the Third Aerospace Academy are supplied domestically, and the projects jointly developed with Lao Ba are supplied abroad. This does not count as cultivating competitors.

Qin Tao was thinking about Zhao Ling's proposal and felt satisfied in his heart. However, he had not expressed his position yet. Liu Yong, who was sitting opposite him, continued to worry. He thought for a while and then said: "Mr. Qin, we What is most needed at the moment is engine technology, so we can only participate in the research of engines. As for the products developed, they can also be produced by Tianjiao Aviation, which will provide us with cruise missile engines in the future.”

"No, Director Liu, you have to worry too much. Just follow the plan Xiaoling said. The wreckage that we can access can be accessed by the technicians you sent. We will study the above technology together. Once the research is completed, we can Share." Qin Tao said.

"Thank you, Mr. Qin!"

"In this case, we also need to set up a specialized research institution in Shuangyang Factory." Qin Tao said: "Just call it the Long Sword Project. What we have to do now is to forge a long sword that relies on heaven!"

Since the current Changjian-10 is still called Donghai-10, Qin Tao was not polite and asked for the name Changjian.

The engine must be produced at Tianjiao Aviation, but it is just production. As for research and development, it still needs to be in your own hands. After all, Tianjiao Airlines does not own it yet. It will take some time until Motorsic goes bankrupt. Take Genghis Khan into your own hands.

Of course, if we are more ruthless, we can bankrupt Genghis Khan and then re-establish it, so that it has nothing to do with Motorsic. Considering the current friendly relationship between the two parties, we cannot do that step yet.

"Okay, Mr. Qin, let's prepare immediately. Can we have a team of 100 people?"

One hundred people? Almost all of them can lead the design, and their own staff only need to follow and learn! Qin Tao nodded: "Okay."

Liu Yong did not follow, and got down at the service area in front, waiting for a ride to the airport, and then returned to the Third Aerospace Academy. Qin Tao continued to move forward, first arriving at Tianjiao Airlines.

Zhao Ling had been in charge here for a while and was very familiar with it. Returning here felt like returning home, and then the sisters at home came to greet her.

"Zhao, you finally came back to see me. Since you left, I have felt very lonely here. If you don't come back, I might go back and ask grandpa to send someone over." Zamota Yeva said to Zhao Ling.

Zhao Ling smiled: "That won't work. Your grandfather wants you to have a good experience in the East. When you go back, it's time to take over the entire Motor Siq Company."

Zamotaeva's expression was a bit complicated: "The operating conditions of the entire Motor Sich Company are not very good. Looking at it now, Genghis Khan's investment is very correct. Now, this is the main profit of the entire Motor Sich Company. source."

Qin Tao was curious: "What's going on? I remember when I went there before, your company's profitability was pretty good. Your Motorsic Company was the power czar!"

"In recent years, our orders have become less and less. Now they are mainly for repairs. Only in the East, our products are still being sold continuously. After our production line was established, we have received two orders one after another. Orders for more than 100 engines." Zamotayeva said: "If it weren't for our blood transfusion, I'm afraid the other side would be unable to support it and would be heavily in debt. Mr. Qin, can we continue to deepen our cooperation?"

"How to deepen it?" Qin Tao asked. In fact, there is another reason for the deterioration of the operating conditions of Motor Sich: after the establishment of Tianjiao Aviation, thousands of experienced Russian technicians were transferred from Motor Sich to work here, with high benefits and good treatment, so those capable Russians came here, and their company headquarters was emptied out. However, people go to higher places and water flows to lower places, and they cannot stop these Russian workers from making choices.

"Can our product line here be further improved? For example, can our domestic D-18T engine also be produced here?" Zamotaeva said.

Qin Tao frowned: "Zamotaeva, you should also know that our AI-222 engine can be sold because our trainer aircraft and drones need this power system, and the price is very low. But now, if we introduce the D-18T engine production line, this engine will have no use even if it is produced. Our Mingzhou Group's An-225 transport aircraft has enough engines in reserve and no longer needs more engines."

The D-18T is the engine of the An-124 and An-225 transport aircraft. The total production volume is less than 200 units. The key is that it is too big.

Take the Y-20 as an example. Four D-30Ks are enough. The thrust of a single unit is more than ten tons, while the maximum thrust of the D-18T reaches 23 tons. It is an engine with absolute excess thrust. It uses a unique three-rotor structure, and the low-pressure turbine has reached 4 levels, resulting in its weight exceeding 4 tons. Although the thrust is high, the deadweight is also large.

In addition, it only has a lifespan of 1,500 hours, and it cannot be used as a power source for civil airliners. Therefore, Qin Tao has no idea about producing this engine. It is not suitable for the modern sky at all.

Of course, it can be improved on its basis by using modern aviation engine technology to continue to increase its lifespan and reduce fuel consumption, so that it can be used as an engine for the future C929 airliner, but these are not what Qin Tao can do now, after all, it is too far away.

"So, can we produce other engines?" Zamotaeva continued to ask: "For example, D-227?"

At this time, she was thinking about the product line of Motor Sich repeatedly in her mind. D-18T is the most suitable product. Unexpectedly, President Qin disagreed. Then, what about D-227? Can President Qin agree?

Hearing Zamotaeva's words, Qin Tao's heart beat violently for some unknown reason.

This engine is of course urgently needed by our side!

The D-227 engine is an excellent three-rotor turboprop engine with a maximum take-off power of 14,000 horsepower and a normal working power of 11,000 horsepower. (After careful research, I think it is normal that this 14,000 horsepower is only used during takeoff, otherwise it would be too outrageous.) Its power is almost twice that of the existing turboprop 6 in China.

Relying on this powerful power, it has become the most reliable engine for the carrier-based early warning aircraft being developed by Dongfang. However, Qin Tao only got ten engines at the beginning. Excluding two spare engines, at most four carrier-based early warning aircraft can be built.

For the Dongfang Navy, four early warning aircraft of this level are obviously not enough, and more are definitely needed. Moreover, with the carrier-based early warning aircraft as a platform, it can also be modified into carrier-based transport aircraft, carrier-based anti-submarine aircraft, etc. In other words, there is a greater demand for this engine!

Not to mention land-based transport aircraft such as the Y-8. If these transport aircraft are replaced with two D-227s, they can reach the power output of the previous four turboprop 6C engines. If four engines are installed, the performance of the Y-8 will have earth-shaking changes.

China has long been lagging behind in the development of turboprop engines. The widely used turboprop 6 is only a single-rotor engine with very backward performance and super heavy weight. It was not until 2018 when China developed AEP-500 that it boldly used a three-rotor structure. In Russia, turboprop engines have long used a three-rotor structure.

Of course, this is very different from the three-rotor structure used in fighter engines. The three-rotor fighter has three types of compressors and three types of turbines, which operate in a nested manner. The compressor of the turboprop engine is still only a high-pressure compressor and a low-pressure compressor with a two-rotor structure, and the turbines behind are also high-pressure turbines and low-pressure turbines. These structures are the same as normal two-rotor engines. There is no third-stage turbine, and the entire engine can still run smoothly. Its three-stage free turbine is only used to drive the propeller, which has nothing to do with the entire engine. You can design it as you want, which greatly improves the efficiency of the engine.

Qin Tao certainly wanted it when Zamotaeva mentioned this engine. As long as the technology of this engine was introduced, he would have a turboprop engine with world-leading level. Domestic carrier-based aircraft, land-based transport aircraft, and even modified passenger aircraft would have advanced engine systems.

However, he could not easily agree at this time. He said with difficulty: "If we open a new engine production line, it will cost a huge amount of money. Now the group has no plan to expand our production line."

Zhao Ling quietly acted as a secretary, saying nothing. This time, they came here to expand the production line to produce engines for cruise missiles used in mapping and imitation. Qin Tao said at this time that they did not have this idea, and of course they wanted to get more benefits from Motor Sich.

Now the other party needs us.

Zamotaeva's eyes moved quickly. She thought for a while, and then said: "If we put this engine into production, we can have a broad market prospect. This is the most advanced turboprop engine in the world and can be equipped on many aircraft. You need this engine."

"I know that you want to use our Eastern market to expand the share of your products, but our current funds are indeed very difficult. If you want to put this engine into production, can you invest a sum of money?"

Zamotaeva shook her head: "We have no money. We still use our technology to invest in the previous way, and each owns half. How about it?"

Wishful thinking! Qin Tao continued to frown: "Zamotaeva, I am actually willing to help you personally, but the AI-222 engine is what we like, and this engine has a great future. What about the D-227 engine? After it is produced, we have to work hard to promote it and sell it. To put it simply, we don't think our high investment will be rewarded, and it may be a waste. You only invest in technology, and if you lose, you lose. What about us? If this engine cannot be sold, then we will suffer heavy losses. Therefore, your technology accounts for at most 20%, and you have to put out a certain amount of funds, and we will jointly start the production line."

"It seems that I can only say sorry." Zamotaeva said: "We don't have enough funds to invest. If we did, the production line would be opened in our country, and we don't need to cooperate with Mingzhou Group."

Zamotaeva's words are very straightforward: I come to you for cooperation because I don't have money. If we have money, we can do it ourselves. Isn't it better?

"Boss Qin, can we think of some other ways?" At this time, Zhao Ling spoke at the right time. She is really a competent secretary! Qin Tao was very moved. This is telepathy. Zhao Ling knew what he was thinking without any hint.

Zhao Ling accompanied Qin Tao everywhere. She was also very clear about the domestic military research and development projects. She knew that this engine was related to the construction of the navy. Of course, it would be better if it could be produced. Now, Qin Tao just wanted the other party to pay a higher price.

"What way?" Qin Tao asked.

"For example, we can ask the bank for a loan." Zhao Ling said: "We can use the existing assets of Tianjiao Airlines as collateral to borrow hundreds of millions from the bank. With this money, we can put this engine into production. When the engine is produced and sold to customers, we can repay the bank."

His wife is smart. This is killing two birds with one stone. In the future, Tianjiao Airlines can be bankrupted as needed, so that you can get something for nothing!

"Loan?" Zamotaeva was a little doubtful. What if she couldn't pay it back? Doesn't that mean that the existing products can't be produced, and the entire factory has been sold by the bank?

"Well, a loan is a good idea." Qin Tao said: "With our Mingzhou Group's endorsement, we can definitely get a loan. Even if we encounter an accident, we don't have to worry that the bank will really come to auction. After all, the one who borrowed the money is the boss. If we can't pay it back, the bank can't do anything to us. Otherwise, we will break the jar and the bank will lose a huge debt."

Zamotaeva was moved. The one who owes money is the boss. This statement is good. We have borrowed a huge debt from the bank. We don't have to worry. The bank has to worry every day. With the endorsement of Mingzhou Group, what does the bank have to worry about?

"After we borrow the money and start production, we will start to promote it in China. Our domestic aviation industry is developing rapidly, and this kind of engine is definitely needed. Even if we only sell 20 to 30 units a year, we can make enough profit."

Aircraft engines are not cabbages. 20 to 30 units a year are not a small number.

Zamotaeva finally nodded: "Okay, then we can try. However, the money to repay the debt must be used from the profits of producing new engines, and absolutely not from the existing profits."

The existing profits must be sent back to Motor Sich. The company is very short of money and relies on Tianjiao Aviation for blood transfusion.

Qin Tao nodded: "Of course, didn't I just say it? The one who owes money is the boss."

The matter was settled. Zamotaeva still needs to report to Ermao. It will take another month or two to officially make a decision. However, the other party has no choice. Without the Eastern market, their D227 can't be sold at all!

The Western aviation industry will not install their engines at all. They can only use them for themselves. In the era of the Red Empire, they planned to develop a brand new transport aircraft to replace the An-12. However, after the collapse of the Red Empire, this project suffered a great blow. The Antonov Design Bureau, which was assigned to Ermao, decided to continue to develop this transport aircraft. In 1994, the first An-70 officially rolled off the assembly line and became the world's largest propeller transport aircraft. (It is also called a propfan engine. The document says it is D-27, but looking at the data, it is almost identical to the D-227.)

Originally, this transport aircraft with a maximum take-off weight of 130 tons could have a brighter future. However, who would have thought that less than three months after its first flight, the first prototype, which was conducting its fourth flight test in Kiev, was equipped with an An-72 B transport aircraft flying next to it. Four people on the An-70 and three on the An-72, a total of seven people, all died. This was definitely a huge blow to the Antonov Design Bureau.

Due to various reasons, there was no market for this type of transport aircraft, so it was not mass-produced at all, and the matching engine also lost the market.

It can only be used in the Eastern market! They can only produce it in the East, so as to impress Eastern customers.

After talking about this matter, Qin Tao did not continue to talk about the small turbofan engine. He would talk about it later. It can be used as a friendly gesture for further cooperation between the two sides. You have a technology, and we have a technology!

Next, Qin Tao took a quick look around here, and after dinner, he came to the Shuangyang Factory next door.

The Shuangyang factory is now in full swing of production. They have a lot of orders and must hurry up to produce. Now, the production line is working in three shifts, which means that the machines are working all the time. With the advanced pulse production line and computer control management, the efficiency of this production line is very high.

Zhao Shunli is also busy. When he learned that Qin Tao was coming, he was inspecting the production line. He ran over with stains all over his body, and there was a row of sockets for electric wrenches in his pocket, which made him look very dedicated.

"Mr. Qin, welcome to your arrival. Why didn't you tell us in advance so that we could line up to welcome you." Zhao Shunli said.

"What do you mean by lining up to welcome you? Are the people in the factory so idle?" Qin Tao rolled his eyes at him: "We focus on production, and don't need to do those empty things."

"Yes, Mr. Qin is right." Zhao Shunli nodded.

Qin Tao continued to ask: "Do the people in our factory only have production capabilities? Do they have design capabilities?"

"Yes, of course. When our Shuangyang factory was just established, there was a factory R&D department." Zhao Shunli said: "Now, our factory's R&D department is still working, working with aircraft designers to convert drawings into production processes, and is still studying how to improve processes to improve efficiency. Take the bulge air intake as an example. We have repeatedly studied it several times, and the processing efficiency has been greatly improved. As for the titanium alloy structural frame of the fuselage, we also used more advanced one-piece hydraulic technology, and we also specially introduced a large hydraulic press."

Speaking of this, Zhao Shunli's spit flew, which is exactly the field he is best at.

The technical expert Tu Lao of Factory 132 is from the factory's R&D department. He specializes in technology and converts aircraft design drawings into production drawings. Later, they grew stronger and were able to improve the J-7 themselves.

As for the R&D department of Shuangyang Factory, although there is no great man like Tu Lao, they have a large number of aircraft designers coming to support them. Anyway, everyone is integrated. In the words of the Russians, it is a production and scientific research consortium.

Qin Tao nodded: "Next, our factory R&D department will continue to grow and become a specialized design agency. Some comrades from brother units and technicians from Lao Ba will come. Everyone will work together to develop a brand new cruise missile."

Zhao Shunli was stunned at first, and then his face was full of excitement: "Okay, okay, let's vacate the office building immediately for the people from the brother units to use!"

Anyway, there are not many people sitting in the office, and everyone is busy on the production line. It is more appropriate to vacate the office building for people engaged in R&D.

Zhao Shunli is not very clear about cruise missiles, but since President Qin has arranged it, it will definitely be done! Thinking that his side will have more projects, Zhao Shunli is very excited.

At this moment, another person hurried out from inside. Her hair was disheveled, as if she hadn't showered for many days. Her body was also a little dirty, and even a special smell could be smelled from a distance.

"Boss Qin, you are finally here. When can we get the engines that our Peace Dove II needs?"