Chapter 551 Surface Goals, Deep Goals
"Next, let's talk about Greece and Persia. I believe there is no doubt that both Greece and Persia are in a stage of rapid development. Greek magic is the best in the world, and the development of philosophy, geometry, theoretical knowledge and technology, It has far surpassed any country. This is not bragging, but what has actually happened in the past few decades."
Almost everyone nodded.
Suye continued: "It is certain that Persia is also developing at a high speed, but please note that the development of Persia and the development of Greece are not in the same direction. The development of Greece is magic, philosophy, geometry, knowledge and Technology, Persia is also making efforts in this area, but Persia's resources are used in two places the most, one is war, the other is luxury goods, and then it is the turn of magic and knowledge. No one can deny this, right?"
All agreed.
"War and territorial expansion can indeed bring wealth to a country, and war can also vigorously promote technological innovation, but the problem is that as the investment in war continues to increase, after reaching a limit, the more investment in war, the final The income is gradually diminishing. The simplest example, when we only have 100 golden eagles, we will be very happy to earn a new 100 golden eagles in a month. This is a typical low consumption and high development. But we When there were 100 million Golden Eagles, it took us a month to earn 100 Golden Eagles, and we would turn the tables and scold people, because this is a typical example of high consumption and low development.”
Everyone smiled and nodded, this metaphor is very vivid.
"Let's not talk about luxury goods. The whole country of Persia is extravagant. Their excellent magicians and craftsmen spend their energy on making gems and making gold and silver jewelry. But what about us Greeks? We make new living utensils. Researching new paper, we are developing nautical technology, we are exploring the sky, starry sky, ocean, philosophy, magic, technology, these fields will inevitably grow explosively after long-term accumulation.”
"Moreover, with the presence of gods, there have been no large-scale internal strife among our Greek city-states for many years, and internal consumption has been reduced to a minimum."
"To sum up, Greece is a country with low consumption and high development, while Persia is a country with high consumption and high development. So, now I ask you, in the long run, does the future belong to Persia or Greece?"
"Greece!"
Warm applause sounded in the chamber.
Clemente murmured in a low voice: "Teacher Su Ye is too powerful."
Palos nodded slightly, and continued to nod, then stopped suddenly, raised her head, and glanced at Su ye secretly.
Su ye smiled and said: "I can only say that from this perspective, using this method, the future belongs to Greece, but if you look at it from another perspective,
The result is not certain. Even, when Greece is in the stage of 'low consumption and high development', the future belongs to Greece. However, if one day there is a country that surpasses Greece, such as Rome or Northern Europe, their consumption is lower than Greece, and their development is faster than Greece, because consumption and development are relative, Greece will become a country with high consumption and low development, then , the future belongs to the new kingdom. "
"Okay, very good, you showed us the bravery of young people and the wisdom of magicians. Then, let's continue to discuss the most intense issue just now. How should we deal with Persia? Should we confront Persia in an all-round way, or reduce confrontation and give up some of our interests? , make concessions?" Larence asked.
Su ye looked embarrassed.
The teachers laughed, the discussion just now was the most intense in the audience.
Those who support all-out confrontation almost call those who support concessions traitors, slaves, or kneelers.
And those who supported the concession almost scolded those who confronted all-out as idiots and mindless barbarians.
If Lawrence hadn't called for a stop, the two sides would definitely have yelled at each other.
"Tell me, if you don't answer, you will fail ten subjects this year." Larence said with a smile.
The teachers also laughed.
Su ye looked at Ned En angrily. He learned everything from you.
Ned En has a calm face, none of my business?
"I've seen your point of view, speak out." Ned En resolutely sold his teammates.
"Oh? You already have a point of view? Tell me!" Aristotle was curious.
During this meeting, Aristotle remained silent. Seeing that even he had spoken, everyone became even more curious about Su ye.
Su Ye said helplessly: "Before answering this question, let me ask a question to the two people who had the most heated quarrel just now. Teacher Gregory, you are the main fighter, so why are you attacking Persia in an all-round way?"
"Of course it is to defeat Persia. Persia is immortal, and Greece will never be strong." Gregory said.
"Okay, then, Teacher Caderius, you said that while fighting, you can sacrifice part of your interests to make peace in order to preserve Greece. So, what is the purpose of your peace with Persia?"
"I said before that in order to accumulate strength, look for opportunities, and finally defeat Persia. You can't lose everything because of a momentary impulse." Caderius said.
Su Ye nodded, and said, "Then I'll just say it straight. I think that the people on both sides are right, but they also ignored a very important issue."
"Both sides are concerned about what the other side is doing. One side thinks that the other side is giving in. It naturally infers that the other side has no backbone and is suspected of surrendering. Then it goes the other way, thinking that the other side is on the side of Persia, which will eventually harm Greece. The opponent is the enemy."
"The other side believes that those who support all-out confrontation are blind and stupid, because war will not solve the real problem, but will make the problem worse. Naturally, it will be reversed. The behavior of the other side may drag Greece into an endless abyss. In the end, If it hurts Greece, it is also considered an enemy."
"The end result will inevitably be that both sides yell at each other, and even, in order to prove that they are right and the other is wrong, they are hostile to each other, but they forget that our common enemy is Persia outside."
Everyone was silent.
Su Ye continued: "I'm different from both sides. I didn't pay attention to 'what the two sides are doing'. I didn't push it backwards. I first focused on 'why the two sides did this'. Then why are the two sides sitting here discussing this matter? It is to protect Greece! To make Greece better! Then this incident is strange. Both of you think that the other is harming Greece, but I think that both are protecting Greece? Think about it carefully, what is the other party here? To harm Greece, or to help Greece?"
The council hall was silent.
"Indeed, both sides are helping Greece, and even I almost fell into it just now." Larence sighed.
Some people nodded slightly.
Su Ye said: "That is to say, when judging each other, the two sides used the wrong order of inference, first look at the surface, then deduce a wrong reason from the outside to the inside, and finally nail the other party to the wrong wall of crime. But I, or a few people, first look for the cause directly, and then come to the final result from the inside out. The order of our thinking is different, resulting in the opposite end result."
"That's a good point, I have to write it down seriously, this is what you said... Positive sequence logic, right?" Euclid recorded carefully.
The golden mages froze for a moment, glanced at the sanctuary masters who were recording, and took out their magic books to record.
Among the silver magicians, most of them took notes carefully, but there were still a few who stood there in a daze.
After a while, Lawrence checked that everyone had finished recording, and asked, "So, do you think we should confront in an all-round way, or should we retreat while confronting?"
"The level where the problem occurs can never solve the problem. We must penetrate this level and find a way to solve the problem from a deeper level. To give the simplest example, we feel itchy in the body, just scratch it. However, if we often itch and spend a lot of time scratching it every day, what will happen? It will inevitably cause redness and cracking of the skin all over the body, but it still cannot solve the 'itch'. If we only blame the body for itching, or only If we blame ourselves for scratching the wrong way, then we will never be able to solve the problem. What will we actually do? We will penetrate the superficial 'itch', determine that it is a 'disease', and then find a doctor to help treat it. After treatment, we will When the disease is cured, it doesn't itch anymore, so it doesn't scratch anymore."
"Itching is the level at which the problem occurs, and scratching is the solution to the level at which it occurs, but this method cannot actually solve the problem. But we found that there is a 'some kind of disease' at a deeper level, and then using the method of curing the disease can solve the itching , will solve the problem.”
"Using this principle, when we look back, the teachers on both sides, all the logic is 'Persia attacks us, how can we counter Persia', that is to say, the itch comes, we scratch it. Remember when I asked at the beginning Gregory and Caderius? I added 'Persia' to the question."
"I asked Mr. Gregory, why do we want to attack Persia in an all-round way, and his answer was, of course, to destroy Persia."
"I asked Teacher Caderius, what is the purpose of seeking peace from Persia, and his answer was to accumulate strength, find time, and defeat Persia."
"It looked all right, but when I gave up on Persia and we thought 'why are we sitting here talking about this', I said everyone was protecting Greece and everyone took it for granted. So why would it be so?"
"Because we are easily attracted by the superficial goals and forget to explore the deep goals, so we will never be able to solve the problem."
"So, let me ask one last time. What we really want to do in this meeting is to protect Greece or defeat Persia? Choose to protect Greece and raise your left hand, and choose to defeat Persia to raise your right hand."
Lawrence raised his left hand first.
Afterwards, most people raised their left hands, and only a small number of people raised their right hands firmly.
"Very well, to all of you who raised your right hand, I can tell you the truth, you are scratching the itch and not trying to cure it. That is, you think the itch is the cause, and you think solving the itch is the goal, but no, the cure is The purpose. Just like, the Persian aggression is just an appearance, but you take it as the cause. And defeating Persia is the goal, but in fact, defeating Persia is just a means. Our real purpose is not to defeat Persia, but to protect Greece and peace. These two They seem to be the same, but they are like worlds apart.”
Some people showed displeasure.
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