Chapter 674 Dream Group, Something Is Not Right

Li Jie, who finally finished his tactics and drank water, refilled a glass for himself and Chang Haonan respectively, and then hesitated for a moment, looking like he was hesitant to speak.

"Mr. Chang, there is one more thing..."

Judging from this meaning, it is likely to be followed by a question such as "I don't know whether to say it or not."

However, considering that both of them had technical backgrounds, this whole thing was a bit redundant, so he finally said directly:

"I would like to ask, is there any business relationship between your company and Dream Group?"

There seemed to be no connection between this question and the topic just now, which made Chang Haonan stunned for a moment:

"During the centralized procurement, did I buy their computer host...does it count?"

Needless to say, in this era, 100% of the accessories in the PC market are basically imported. Compared with other brands that have to import their complete machines from abroad, Dream Group can at least keep the assembly process in China, so in Public budget procurement eats up most of the market.

Therefore, although Chang Haonan didn't want to see the other party in his heart, he had no choice.

Moreover, from this perspective, Dream Group made some contribution to China's electronic information industry in the early days.

It's a pity that it ends there.

"Of course this doesn't count..."

Li Jie waved his hand and couldn't help but laugh:

"This can only be regarded as a normal purchase and sale transaction. I mean, cooperation like this with our Dawn Group."

Strictly speaking, it was a bit over the line for him to ask this question.

Although in most cases the cooperation between enterprises will be made public, the details of the outline and launch are also considered trade secrets.

If it is two private companies, then it is no problem for the bosses to sit together and chat about everything. If it is not convenient to answer, they can just go around in circles.

However, Torch Group and Shuguang Group are both second-level state-owned enterprises under the Academy of Sciences system, and they have a completely parallel relationship with each other. Even in terms of business, the former has a closer relationship with the Science and Technology Commission.

That's why Li Jie was a little hesitant just now.

But Chang Haonan didn't take it seriously.

After all, if you really want to talk about it, he has been planning to target the Dream Group since two years ago, but he has never told anyone about it.

So he immediately shook his head:

"Of course there is no such in-depth cooperation."

"You also know that Torch Group is not large in scale, and its main business is to provide targeted and exclusive technical solutions. Therefore, those who have business dealings with us are basically institutions or companies with R&D capabilities..."

After hearing this, Li Jie finally relaxed.

Immediately he realized that there was something in Chang Haonan's words, and couldn't help but chuckled——

Those who have dealings with Torch Group are all institutions or companies with R&D capabilities.

Isn't this a subtle hint that Dream Group does not have the ability in this area...

After giving the answer, Chang Haonan also asked with doubts:

"Why did Academician Li suddenly ask about this?"

As a reborn person, he naturally knows that the Dream Group is unreliable.

Moreover, the foreign trade business of Chinese enterprises that was originally smooth was disrupted by insiders introducing external forces. This happened countless times in the previous life.

So Chang Haonan still has this vigilance.

But it seems that Li Jie shouldn't be so sensitive.

After all, according to the timeline, the Dream Group at this time should not have become the conscience of American imperialism.

"This is a long story..."

Li Jie's expression, which had been smiling just now, suddenly turned serious:

"You should know that in the past two years, the superiors were planning to merge the entire computing institute into the Dream Group, so at that time I was always the deputy director in charge of the work, and the director was always named by the CEO of the Dream Group .”

Chang Haonan nodded, but did not answer. He just motioned for the other party to continue.

"Later, their ambitions expanded and they wanted to take over our Shuguang Group as well. At the highest point, they had obtained 20 million of our shares. However, in the end, because our group's revenue suddenly improved in 1997, it was We didn’t let the Dream Group succeed.”

Having said this, Li Jie also raised his head and glanced at Chang Haonan.

After all, the somewhat sudden wave of supercomputing craze seems to have been influenced by the latter.

Although after calming down, everyone gradually discovered that without a person as incredible as Chang Haonan to take charge of the work, just having a supercomputer would have limited effect, but in any case, Sugon Group made a lot of money that time, directly Reversing the loss trend of previous years.

More importantly, it injected a wave of confidence into the superiors who were originally a little hesitant about this bottomless pit of funds.

And Chang Haonan finally understood:

"So, you, or we, have ruined Dream Group's good deeds, so Academician Li is worried that they will use some off-board tricks to sabotage it?"

"It's not just worry."

Li Jie looked solemn and said:

"Actually, when doing business, they want to acquire us, but we don't want to be acquired. It is normal for the two parties to have conflicts or commercial struggles."

"But since last year, we have obviously encountered some obstacles when importing computer components, some of which are related to production capacity, some to customs clearance documents, and some to review."

"Although there have been no real problems so far, since Mr. Chang wants to keep a low profile in the electronics industry, he should not only consider foreign countries, but also pay more attention when doing things domestically, or rather , on the contrary, we should pay more attention at home..."

Although he and Chang Haonan had business dealings, they had not had many private interactions in the past. He only knew that the latter was excellent in research, but he did not know the role Chang Haonan played in a series of past events.

That's why there is such a reminder.

"Don't worry, I'll be careful."

Chang Haonan naturally knew that the other party had good intentions, and nodded to express his understanding:

"Besides, I have experience in dealing with this kind of thing."

Obviously, in the current timeline, due to his series of twists and turns, Dream Group encountered development obstacles in China early on.

It is only a matter of time before a conflict occurs.

Before China truly became the world's factory, the functions played by companies like Dream Group were generally positive.

After all, even if it is an assembly factory, assembling electronic products belongs to the high-tech field and is definitely a valuable industry for China at this stage.

However, when China is no longer satisfied with being the world's factory, these companies that have been used to making money as factories have turned into a dragging role.

This is a structural contradiction.

The more things he does and the greater the role he plays, the sooner China will develop upstream in the international industrial division of labor.

It would be contrary to the interests of the comprador group.

This is actually the same as when he wanted to develop independent aviation industry standards a few years ago, but was blocked by a group of people.

Taking someone's job is like killing your parents.

However, at that time, Chang Haonan was just a little Karami with little energy.

Even using the influence of the Science and Technology Commission has to be done through Du Yishan.

There's really not much that can be done.

Therefore, most of the pressure and the specific countermeasures he came up with were all done by Ding Gaoheng.

But now, times have changed.

In the Boeing merger and acquisition, as well as the upcoming Allied Forces Operation, even Americans dare to have a hand in it, let alone a dream group that has not even fully committed to the United States...

"Academician Li."

Chang Haonan's character is one that can't fight for short-term gains and losses, but must decide the long-term outcome. At that moment, he already had the idea of ​​​​sitting down the Dream Group:

"I wonder if your company is interested in developing into areas other than commercial servers and supercomputing?"

Li Jie looked at Chang Haonan with a slightly curious look, but he still nodded honestly:

"Of course there is. After the previous popularity of supercomputing and servers, the market is a bit oversaturated. It would be good if the number of new orders can be maintained without falling. If you want to further improve it, you can either do it like you just said. We can either open up overseas markets or expand other businesses horizontally."

"However, in areas other than commercial machines, we really don't have the resources... Take the PC market, which has the largest profit margin now, as an example. The layout of the entry has already been completed. If we go out, firstly, the superiors may not approve it. This kind of repetitive construction can only pick up some scraps that other manufacturers don’t want in the market..."

Objectively speaking, Dream Group does have a good momentum at the moment. It is very difficult to come up against the opponent's advantage and make a comeback.

The opportunity is that in a few years, China's government and enterprise procurement will try to introduce localization indicators for the first time, especially the localization of operating systems.

In the original timeline, this first attempt was ultimately unsuccessful.

But there is still a chance now.

Therefore, what Chang Haonan wanted to do was originally a roundabout strategy:

"In terms of PC, it is really unrealistic to compete head-on with those companies right away."

"However, as you mentioned before, we have established a joint venture with an Italian machine tool company, and we are responsible for the industrial control part."

"It's just that the software is indeed written by ourselves, but the hardware still has to be purchased from imported models..."

Having said this, Li Jie still can't understand:

"You mean to start with industrial control equipment, microcontrollers and the like..."

"But the level of domestic hardware..."

Of course Chang Haonan already had a draft:

"High-end products are definitely not available now, but we can start from the low-end."

"No matter the level, we still have to build up the domestic industry ecosystem first. We cannot support an entire semiconductor industry chain just by selling supercomputers and servers..."

"Do you also have a product line of low-end models?"

Li Jie’s focus is a little different:

"I heard someone say before that the first product you launched was something that had never been produced in China before."

Chang Haonan waved his hand:

"We definitely don't have a joint venture with Italy. We need to rely on that to gain brand influence, so the three-axis CNC machining center we first released is the lowest-end model."

"But in the future, an industrial control division may be established to provide other machine tool companies, especially domestic machine tool companies, with solutions for converting ordinary machine tools into CNC machine tools. This segment will definitely focus on low-end business."

"Although our country's machine tool strength is not strong, the output is actually not low. If we seize this business, although the profit margin is relatively miserable, it will not be a problem to support a set of upstream and downstream industries."

"When the talent level improves, and then return to the PC market with a high localization rate as a selling point, although it may not be attractive to personal business, it is enough to only eat the cake of procurement from sensitive units..."